2to5coupe

i need help on a boost project. Its a 2000 civic EX D16Y8, "Automatic" I cant do an OBD1 Jump because the automatic tranny has a different control box asside from the ecu and it unlike 92-95's and the jump from OBD2A To OBD1. i was wondering if you think hondatta s200 with the boost option would work, and also shoot me some other ideas, thanks

0Jon at Titan

I dont think Hondata Will work becuase it uses OBD1 to Work. Best thing you could probably use is a Greddy Emanage Ultimate or something along those lines.
Or maybe im Worng, But as far as i know Hondata Uses OBd1 to my Knowledge

2to5coupe

i just read that it works on a stock 99-00 P2E ECU With no jumping required

p0gi

only the hondata 2b worked with auto ecus, unless theyve changed it recently

2to5coupe

what is 2B? i havent read too muck into it

p0gi

its old. I dont know if you can go obd1 since you have a seperate tranny ecu. I would say emanage ultimate would be your best bet. I use the emanage blue and it works perfectly. Have a perfect air/fuel ratio as flat as a board and got 61mpg on one stretch of hwy on my way to wash. The rest of the way I got about 40mpg.

Did you get my PM?

2to5coupe

what PSI are you running, is it easy to program etc... i am use to crome bro

p0gi

yeah its really simple. It took an hour to have my car tuned. Its a piggy back but it works really well

right now im running 9.5psi, but will up it to about 15 psi once i get my aem wideband in.

2to5coupe

but the auto tranny wont expletive up right? also can i use DSM 450 or do i have to use RC440 injectors, either way i can hook up res, box etc... or whatever i just need to get this thing going and i never had to f**k with this OBD2B auto

p0gi

I wouldnt suggest running as much boost as I will be on a stock tranny. I would say 8-9 would be max for longevity, plus get a trans cooler. Its a definite must.

You can use dsm 450s as long as you use something to control them. I used to run them but switched to accell 370s coz the car wouldnt like to cold start and it cranked like 100times before it would. Im near tacoma if you need some help with it.

TheThiefTheKnife'NTheGun

Run it till it blows up!! then do a conversion

2to5coupe

when you say, "somthing to control them" do you mean a seperate control unit or do you mean a resister box?

p0gi

some type engine management, emanage, or whatever, so you can scale down the injectors.

2to5coupe

so where do i get hondata 2b? i went to there site

2to5coupe

disregaurd the last one, it wont be on hondata site, its discontinued. next will hondata stage 2b work on the 2000 automatic? system and also how to set it up, come on i need some help here

sicones

convert it to manual, don't even think about turbo till it's manual, automatic civics have NEGATIVE POTENTIAL, as far as your automatic ECU goes you can't convert to OBD 1, you're going to have to expletive around with piggyback **** (Emanage, VAFC, etc.), btw 96-98 have a seperate TCM (transmission control modual), 99-00 is in the ECU

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p0gi

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sicones &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">convert it to manual, don't even think about turbo till it's manual, automatic civics have NEGATIVE POTENTIAL, as far as your automatic ECU goes you can't convert to OBD 1, you're going to have to expletive around with piggyback **** (Emanage, VAFC, etc.), btw 96-98 have a seperate TCM (transmission control modual), 99-00 is in the ECU </TD></TR></TABLE>

how is it that they have negative potential

nsxmatt

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by p0gi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> how is it that they have negative potential </TD></TR></TABLE>

The fact most 96-00 Civic automatic trannys die with old ladies driving them bone stock has something to do with it. Think adding someone driving it aggresive with almost double the WHP is going to make for a potential setup?

Honda automatics are not made to hold up any additional power, they can't stand the heat and the clutch packs and TQ converter can't handle the power. Adding aftermarket parts like from Level 10 don't help and the tranny will fail. Many people have tried and failed as it's a simple fact the tranny just can't hold the power. The Civic also has a computer controlled transmission and the Hondata will not support that.

Run a FMU and inline pump and swap out trannys every few months or just swap to a manual.

p0gi

i dont know much about the 96 up trannys but i got over 60k of boosted miles out of my 94 ex tranny and would have still been driving it if I didnt get it rebuilt and put in a high stall converter. It had over 200k miles on it when it was rebuilt.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxmatt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


Honda automatics are not made to hold up any additional power, they can't stand the heat and the clutch packs and TQ converter can't handle the power. Adding aftermarket parts like from Level 10 don't help and the tranny will fail. Many people have tried and failed as it's a simple fact the tranny just can't hold the power.
Run a FMU and inline pump and swap out trannys every few months or just swap to a manual.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats just a load of ****!

nsxmatt

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by p0gi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thats just a load of ****! </TD></TR></TABLE>

Prove me wrong. Show me a reliable, fast, automatic, boosted Civic.

p0gi

well im not going to say that my car is fast since ive never run it at the track but it put down 186.5 whp at 9.5psi. I will turn up the boost soon and hopefully get a chance to re-dyno it or run it at the track. So and if you read my post I got over 60k miles boosted for a grand total of over 200k miles on a bone stock tranny...I think the proof is right there. And just so you know, I know that an auto will never be able to withstand as much whp as a manual trans but your assertions that they wont hold up to any additional power is just plain BS!
Stock I would guess the trannys will hold somewhere around 200-210tq at the flywheel.

nsxmatt

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by p0gi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I know that an auto will never be able to withstand as much whp as a manual trans but your assertions that they wont hold up to any additional power is just plain BS!
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One, your tranny is different than a 96-00. Second, yours is making moderate power, never taken to the track, got decent boosted miles, but still failed. It couldn't handle the power, even at 180whp.

I worked at Honda for 3 years, I can't even count the number of trannys we put in cars other than the V6 trannys with the recall. My wifes old 00 EX started to slip at 70k miles and it was stock, there have been tons of people try to modify them and they fail. I've seen people try converters, different clutch packs, coolers, they still don't work. A auto would be a great drag setup and if a Honda tranny could take the power even for one run you would see people trying it, but they can't.

p0gi

did you even read what I posted.....? Where did I say my tranny failed? Oh wait I didnt....Try re-reading what you said and what I said...... You said " Honda automatics are not made to hold up any additional power"
Stock dyno of an auto civic is about 90whp. I put out double that and it lasted for 4 years of pretty good abuse, and never failed (definatly additional power). And I also stated that I dont know anything about 96-00 autos but your post was generalized torward honda autos.

Oh and how long are clutch packs supposed to last? Are manual transmissions shitty because clutchs go out at 65-70k miles? And even less if boosted. Give me a break!

nsxmatt

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by p0gi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Oh and how long are clutch packs supposed to last? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Your the automatic expert, you tell me.

To the original poster, Honda auto's will all last over 60k+ miles boosted and never fail because one person did. Boost all you want and if it fails p0gi will buy you a new tranny because he knows what he is talking about.

JICEK9

you have multiple obsticles if I'm not mistaken. I don't beleive Hondata runs on obd2 or with auto transmissions.
for an auto trans I would supercharge it and use some other piggyback system. just keep the boost down (like under 9-10lbs) and you'll have a fun reliable car. just my opinion.