boost and the zex 59300 cam
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Re: boost and the zex 59300 cam (SOHC_MShue)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOHC_MShue »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
damn were you able to buy that new 105300 y8 cam back in december? I wish I had known about it back then when I had bought my 59300 for my y8...it sucks using the z6 cam. I have to advance my dizzy all the way just to get 16 degrees of ignition timing...for those of you with the y8 cam where do you have your cam timing set? When I had called about that y8 cam before they said they weren't gonna have it out to buy for a while.</TD></TR></TABLE>
oh nah foo i got this like 2 weeks ago lol
damn were you able to buy that new 105300 y8 cam back in december? I wish I had known about it back then when I had bought my 59300 for my y8...it sucks using the z6 cam. I have to advance my dizzy all the way just to get 16 degrees of ignition timing...for those of you with the y8 cam where do you have your cam timing set? When I had called about that y8 cam before they said they weren't gonna have it out to buy for a while.</TD></TR></TABLE>
oh nah foo i got this like 2 weeks ago lol
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Re: boost and the zex 59300 cam (CivicRyda2k)
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Re: boost and the zex 59300 cam (SOHC_MShue)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOHC_MShue »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
damn were you able to buy that new 105300 y8 cam back in december? I wish I had known about it back then when I had bought my 59300 for my y8...it sucks using the z6 cam. I have to advance my dizzy all the way just to get 16 degrees of ignition timing...for those of you with the y8 cam where do you have your cam timing set? When I had called about that y8 cam before they said they weren't gonna have it out to buy for a while.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Sounds like your using a Y8 cam gear...use a Z6 cam gear when your using Z6 cam or else your timing belt will be 1/2 tooth off.
damn were you able to buy that new 105300 y8 cam back in december? I wish I had known about it back then when I had bought my 59300 for my y8...it sucks using the z6 cam. I have to advance my dizzy all the way just to get 16 degrees of ignition timing...for those of you with the y8 cam where do you have your cam timing set? When I had called about that y8 cam before they said they weren't gonna have it out to buy for a while.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Sounds like your using a Y8 cam gear...use a Z6 cam gear when your using Z6 cam or else your timing belt will be 1/2 tooth off.
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Re: boost and the zex 59300 cam (Happyman)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Happyman »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What's different about the 105300 from the 59300 other than one is for z6 and one is for y8?</TD></TR></TABLE>
None.
59300 - Z6
105300 - Y8
None.
59300 - Z6
105300 - Y8
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Re: boost and the zex 59300 cam (D-Man)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by D-Man »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Sounds like your using a Y8 cam gear...use a Z6 cam gear when your using Z6 cam or else your timing belt will be 1/2 tooth off.</TD></TR></TABLE>
nope i'm using a z6 cam gear. In fact i think this cam has crazy timing even in a z6 motor. It just really needs to be degreed to find the correct place to set timing on the cam gear. You can even ask turbodcx about this. He had his cam set to 0 degrees, but never checked his ignition timing. I told him about my problems and he went ahead and checked his ignition timing. The results were that his ignition timing was very very far retarted. He said he advanced the cam a few degrees on the cam gear and after that set the ignition timing to 16 degrees. Now he sais it felt like he gained 50whp on that beast
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Sounds like your using a Y8 cam gear...use a Z6 cam gear when your using Z6 cam or else your timing belt will be 1/2 tooth off.</TD></TR></TABLE>
nope i'm using a z6 cam gear. In fact i think this cam has crazy timing even in a z6 motor. It just really needs to be degreed to find the correct place to set timing on the cam gear. You can even ask turbodcx about this. He had his cam set to 0 degrees, but never checked his ignition timing. I told him about my problems and he went ahead and checked his ignition timing. The results were that his ignition timing was very very far retarted. He said he advanced the cam a few degrees on the cam gear and after that set the ignition timing to 16 degrees. Now he sais it felt like he gained 50whp on that beast
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Re: boost and the zex 59300 cam (SOHC_MShue)
my timing is set to stock, and I bought it in Jan 04.
I do need to roll it back 2 degress though...
Can anyone tell me, fax me scan, photo me... whatever ..the VECI label from the back side of the hood on a 00 Civic EX D16y8?
I need a few items off this label..
thanks.
I do need to roll it back 2 degress though...
Can anyone tell me, fax me scan, photo me... whatever ..the VECI label from the back side of the hood on a 00 Civic EX D16y8?
I need a few items off this label..
thanks.
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Re: boost and the zex 59300 cam (CivicRyda2k)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CivicRyda2k »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">weird though the specs are the same on both cams</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well I just got my 105300 in today and the specs apparently are SLIGHTLY different than the 59300.
Y8 105300
Advertised Duration 256/268
Duration @ .050 220/216
Valve Lift 456/428
Z6 59300
Advertised Duration 260/268
Duration @ .050 220/216
Valve Lift 455/430
I got the 59300 specs from http://www.hadamotorsport.com/D16camshafts.htm and the 105300 specs came right off my box. The difference isn't enough to really make a difference, but apparently there is still a small difference between the two in Adv Dur and Lift.
Well I just got my 105300 in today and the specs apparently are SLIGHTLY different than the 59300.
Y8 105300
Advertised Duration 256/268
Duration @ .050 220/216
Valve Lift 456/428
Z6 59300
Advertised Duration 260/268
Duration @ .050 220/216
Valve Lift 455/430
I got the 59300 specs from http://www.hadamotorsport.com/D16camshafts.htm and the 105300 specs came right off my box. The difference isn't enough to really make a difference, but apparently there is still a small difference between the two in Adv Dur and Lift.
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Re: boost and the zex 59300 cam (RyanCivic2000)
hrm well i got those specs from zex's website...
http://www.zex.com/Information...9.jpg or...
http://www.zex.com/Information/Catalog/pdf/9.pdf
http://www.zex.com/Information...9.jpg or...
http://www.zex.com/Information/Catalog/pdf/9.pdf
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Re: boost and the zex 59300 cam (CivicRyda2k)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CivicRyda2k »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hrm well i got those specs from zex's website...
http://www.zex.com/Information...9.jpg or...
http://www.zex.com/Information/Catalog/pdf/9.pdf</TD></TR></TABLE>
That is very strange. My camshaft came with different specs on it.
Maybe Matt can explain???
http://www.zex.com/Information...9.jpg or...
http://www.zex.com/Information/Catalog/pdf/9.pdf</TD></TR></TABLE>
That is very strange. My camshaft came with different specs on it.
Maybe Matt can explain???
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Re: boost and the zex 59300 cam (D-Man)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by D-Man »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that's crazy 
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yea i know right. I think the dizzy key slot must be off from what it is on the stock y8 cam.
</TD></TR></TABLE>yea i know right. I think the dizzy key slot must be off from what it is on the stock y8 cam.
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I have been running the 59300 for the past four years on my D16Z6 turbo/nitrous race engine. I run 23-24 PSI and the cam works great. My combination makes peak power at 6900rpm, but only drops 15hp at 7900rpm, so the cam makes for a very broad and useable powerband for the gearing in the stock transmissions. The noise that most people hear from these cams is due to aggressive opening ramps. It is a design term for the rate at which the cam lobe is opening the valve. It is the key to building lots of bottom end torque, with out loosing HP up top. Basically, with agressive ramps you get short seat timing (good for TQ) with plenty of "area under the curve" for high RPM airflow. The only down side to aggressive ramps is the slight increase in noise. To open up the valve faster, you need to input more energy in a shorter period of time, and that is what is making the noise. If you don't want noise, you can put "soft" ramps on the cam and the noise will go away.....so will about 7 ft. lbs. of TQ.
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Re: boost and the zex 59300 cam
ZEX Man's last login to the site was over 2 years ago - doubtful you'll get an answer.
I left my stock valve guides in place when I installed my Comp 59300...just had them knurled. I also used the stock cam gear. With single cam engines, you don't have to worry as much about degreeing the cam (regarding V2V contact) since the same camshaft controls intake/exhaust events and you can't control the phasing. I mean, properly degreeing the cam can't hurt anything.
I left my stock valve guides in place when I installed my Comp 59300...just had them knurled. I also used the stock cam gear. With single cam engines, you don't have to worry as much about degreeing the cam (regarding V2V contact) since the same camshaft controls intake/exhaust events and you can't control the phasing. I mean, properly degreeing the cam can't hurt anything.
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ZEX Man's last login to the site was over 2 years ago - doubtful you'll get an answer.
I left my stock valve guides in place when I installed my Comp 59300...just had them knurled. I also used the stock cam gear. With single cam engines, you don't have to worry as much about degreeing the cam (regarding V2V contact) since the same camshaft controls intake/exhaust events and you can't control the phasing. I mean, properly degreeing the cam can't hurt anything.
I left my stock valve guides in place when I installed my Comp 59300...just had them knurled. I also used the stock cam gear. With single cam engines, you don't have to worry as much about degreeing the cam (regarding V2V contact) since the same camshaft controls intake/exhaust events and you can't control the phasing. I mean, properly degreeing the cam can't hurt anything.
Good afternoon. I know this was an old thread, but I am planning on running the same comfortable my setup. So I have 2 questions. 1. My oem valve guides are fine. No play. No damage. How strong are you on changing them? 2. I have spoken to a few experienced d16 builders about degreeing the cam. 1 out of 6 told me I should, but he dosen't deal with d16s. He is a b and k series guy. The d16 guys told me that they just Zero it out, and leave it to the tuner to dial it in. What are your thoughts? Sorry for being difficult if i am. I have used Comp Cams in all my American Muscle builds and wouldn't use anyone else. Thank you in advance...
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Re: boost and the zex 59300 cam
"Degreeing" a SOHC camshaft basically moves the power band up or down the RPM range... advance the cam and you make more power down low... retard the cam and you make power up higher.
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You can stay with stock valve guides but new ones are only about $6 each, so you’ll only have to spend about $100 plus labor for new ones, which is why I’m going with new ones.
I’d zero out the cam like that one friend told you.
I’d zero out the cam like that one friend told you.
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