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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 03:24 PM
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I purchased a "built" H22A4 engine on craigslist and am trying to figure out if this block is sleeved. I was told it had GE sleeves when i bought it but when i took it apart i cant tell. It had Arias Pistons and Eagle rods so i am hoping it is. Here are a couple pics if someone can tell me either way if i got completely screwed.




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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 03:33 PM
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sorry to notify you, but that block is not sleeved. how long have you owned this block and do you know how to contact the owner? your going to need a lawyer for this.
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 03:44 PM
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wow you got ripped off.
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 03:48 PM
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nope, it's not sleeved. sorry man.
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 04:02 PM
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Who wants to Sleeve a block? I have the pistons already haha
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 04:06 PM
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nope that looks pretty stock!
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 04:12 PM
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yeah not sleeved sorry man
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 06:00 PM
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Wow that sucks.
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 06:12 PM
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That's definitely not what FRM material looks like... It's not stock, I dont care what you guys say lol

this is what FRM looks like, it's a light grey color
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 06:23 PM
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i think the jdm h22a come closed deck...but im not sure...either way that block is not sleeved.....sucks
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 06:35 PM
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open deck vs closed deck, it doesnt matter; both blocks have FRM cylinder walls. The picture is just for reference as to what FRM looks like
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 06:54 PM
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Its probably got darton replacement sleeves, which allow you to run aftermarket pistons other than Mahles.
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 06:55 PM
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looks like it might have those sleeves that they cut out the actuall steel wall on the stock sleeves and press in an iron sleeve. i remember reading something about doing it like that to repair damaged sleeves on closed deck stuff that can be resleeved. look at the groove around the bottom of the cylinder in the pics. doesnt look like its oem.
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 09:07 PM
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Yeah the walls of the sleeves have like a mirror finish. At first i thought they were stock until i looked at my shot h22a block and it had dull grey cylinder walls. Thats why i needed a second opinion because i didnt know what the A4 cylinders look like. So who has a pic of the stock sleeves in a h22a4? Would they be different in appearance than the dull grey ones in the Jdm h22a? Somebody Anybody?
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 09:15 PM
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technically it is sleeved. stock straight sleeves. and man do they look bad. look at how rounded they are.
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by No_Limits_Accord
Yeah the walls of the sleeves have like a mirror finish. At first i thought they were stock until i looked at my shot h22a block and it had dull grey cylinder walls. Thats why i needed a second opinion because i didnt know what the A4 cylinders look like. So who has a pic of the stock sleeves in a h22a4? Would they be different in appearance than the dull grey ones in the Jdm h22a? Somebody Anybody?
The cylinder walls look EXACTLY like the picture I posted, except it's open deck on the A4. Your block has aftermarket sleeves/liners; you can see the margin between the liners on the top of the block, as well as at the bottom where you can see where they bored out the stock walls down, not quite to the bottom of the cylinder. You can see it best in your 3rd and 4th pics
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 01:06 AM
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it's look like darton 200series sleeves - look at the botom, all 200series are shorter than the stock sleeves and you'll see small piece of old oem sleeves
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by bzyq2001
it's look like darton 200series sleeves - look at the botom, all 200series are shorter than the stock sleeves and you'll see small piece of old oem sleeves
It looks to be what some call Dry sleeves. I do believe there are a few people besides Darton that make/ use these. They are deffinitley not FRM sleeves those things are grey and have NO shine to then at all. Not the best but WAY better than stock.
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 08:41 AM
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Default Re: Is this block sleeved?

Nope, they are not GE sleeves, possible Darton's, which ain't that bad.
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 10:51 AM
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Default Re: Is this block sleeved?

they are either darton sleeves or LA sleeves or JGE sleeves
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by <jdm_love>
i think the jdm h22a come closed deck...but im not sure...either way that block is not sleeved.....sucks
+1 .. you got juiced ... those walls also have a taper to them.. need to definatly get bord over and a fresh hone.. thus those pistons will no longer work .. double fail
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 03:40 PM
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Default Re: Is this block sleeved?

Sleeved yes, but def not GE sleeves...Not the best sleeve setup, but it will still work fine on mild applications though
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by GotRHD
+1 .. you got juiced ... those walls also have a taper to them.. need to definatly get bord over and a fresh hone.. thus those pistons will no longer work .. double fail
wtf are you talking about? There is no way you could determine the taper without a bore gauge. And yes, it IS sleeved. Please, dont spread your ignorance around
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 03:57 PM
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Definitely a dry sleeve. You can tell by looking at the sleeve base. Not the greatest way of sleeving a block but works well for the H motors. It allows you to use forged aluminum pistons without having the FRM sleeves expand to the point that P2W clearance is zero, lol. Dry sleeves are usually just for stock replacement and do not brace anywhere on the block itself. So works well with your pistons, but stronger? VERY debatable.
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 04:24 PM
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This is a built sleeved block. Notice the thick sleeves and butted side plates.

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