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Old 01-30-2004, 10:46 AM
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Like the topis says! Also is it possible to put down 300hp with a jasckson racing blower?
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y?
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Default Re: b20b+b16a+good to super charge? (ThefirstPACT)

i just want to know peoples experience and concers with my setip!
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Default Re: b20b+b16a+good to super charge? (ThefirstPACT)

try searching the FI archived threads. but if your set on a blower id recommend a vortech, dont mind the haters.


EDIT: turbo that bitch y0
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Default Re: b20b+b16a+good to super charge? (ProEater)

[QUOTE dont mind the haters.
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NOT HATING...if I was hating then I would say superchargers suck, go turbo...

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Default Re: b20b+b16a+good to super charge? (hatchling)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hatchling &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

NOT HATING...if I was hating then I would say superchargers suck, go turbo...

Peace
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actually superchargers blow and i could go into the numbers that can be put down with a vortech but im not going to ruin this thread with another turbo vs. super debate.
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Default Re: b20b+b16a+good to super charge? (ProEater)

ok, I would make the exception for the Vortec kit but I dont really know of or heard of any other supercharged cars making 300hp... ok maybe once but that was a long time ago.
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Default Re: b20b+b16a+good to super charge? (hatchling)

well iam getting a killer deal on the JRSC! It is going to tide me over. I am in the process of finding another b20b and building it and making a custom turbo kit(going to test my fabrication skills)!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hatchling &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok, I would make the exception for the Vortec kit but I dont really know of or heard of any other supercharged cars making 300hp... ok maybe once but that was a long time ago.</TD></TR></TABLE>

one of the moderators from clubsi.com has a 300+whp b16 with a vortech
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Default Re: b20b+b16a+good to super charge? (ThefirstPACT)

Good god can anyone answer this guys question? So many people can say "go turbo" or "vortechs can" or "this should be locked"...and not one person has tried to answer the question.

Do a search on CRVRX's posts. He has a JRSC'd B20 VTEC pushing ~285whp @ 8PSI. Very very cool setup.
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Actually, it's a 350whp b16 that's pretty close to running 11's.


The jrsc is a good mod, if usable street power is what you're after. 300whp is possible on a jrsc, you would definately need some cooling. Either nitrous, or an IC could be your way into 300whp territory, and a lot more low end than either vortech, or a big turbo.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hypa &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Actually, it's a 350whp b16 that's pretty close to running 11's.
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Whaaaat? Where have I been? Has this setup been posted?
Old 01-30-2004, 05:55 PM
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Default Re: b20b+b16a+good to super charge? (hatchling)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hatchling &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">LOCK</TD></TR></TABLE>

same thing I was thinking

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Default Re: b20b+b16a+good to super charge? (newgsrdriver)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by newgsrdriver &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Good god can anyone answer this guys question? So many people can say "go turbo" or "vortecs can" or "this should be locked"...and not one person has tried to answer the question.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Dude, first of all no one ever said to "go turbo" I was being sarcastic by saying that if I was hating on this guy that I would have said "superchargers suck, go
turbo" and second of all I never said vortec can anything... I only mentioned vortec b/c I have heard of and seen vortec kits make 300whp. And no one ever said this thread should be locked (except the last guy that just posted) I just said that b/c I tought that this one would eventually get locked.

learn how to read...

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Default Re: b20b+b16a+good to super charge? (hatchling)

I can read just fine. Can you? Ill break it down for you.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is it possible to put down 300hp with a jasckson racing blower?</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hatchling &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">first of all no one ever said to "go turbo"</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ProEater &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">turbo that bitch y0</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hatchling &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and second of all I never said vortec</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hatchling &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would make the exception for the Vortec kit </TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hatchling &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And no one ever said this thread should be locked </TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hatchling &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">LOCK</TD></TR></TABLE>

What are you going to tell me next, your username has no h's or t's in it? I wasnt even referring to just your statements, anyway.

Anyway, if someone has hit 350 whp Hypa, I must have missed it. I definitely want to see that!
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Default Re: b20b+b16a+good to super charge? (newgsrdriver)

I guess I didnt make my-self clear but...

**** it... this it stupid, I dont want to argue about he said she said.

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Default Re: b20b+b16a+good to super charge? (hatchling)

One of my CRX's has a B20Vtec with a supercharger.
The setup is :
84.5mm B20 GE sleeved block 10-1 comp
Type R head, GSR intake, R exhaust cams
LHT design header w' 2.5" full exhaust
LHT intercooler and "S" tube
65mm thottle body
550cc injectors and running 8.5 psi.

I havn't tuned it since but last made 286whp and 212tq , I think running ice water in the intercooler and open header ,300whp is possible. There are a few things I feel would help it out even more, a good ported head, a little more compression and higher rpms.
I hope this gives you some ideas.

This is exactly why I don't post too much on HT, People are too quick to bitch at each other and not anwser the questions rather than help. It is supposed to be a "TECH" forum...Right ?
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Default Re: b20b+b16a+good to super charge? (CRVRX)

Well, Its kinda hard to answer this guys question when there is not that many people here in the forced induction forum that has that much experience with superchargers. Were not bitching at each other either... just a misunderstanding
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRVRX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> People are too quick to bitch at each other and not anwser the questions rather than help. It is supposed to be a "TECH" forum...Right ?
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Everyone PLEASE pay attention to that!

John, have you done any dyno testing on the individual components of your car? IE the difference from stock TB to 65mm, R Intake cam ----&gt; GSR Intake cam etc.

New header design looks interesting...Im curious though, the primaries seem a bit longer than Kami's, which receives so much praise for their short primaries for JRSC applications. Whats the reasoning behind making them longer (if they are), and whats with the stepped design?
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Default Re: b20b+b16a+good to super charge? (newgsrdriver)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by newgsrdriver &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Anyway, if someone has hit 350 whp Hypa, I must have missed it. I definitely want to see that!</TD></TR></TABLE>

clubsiracer is the guy I was talking about. He's running a centrifugal blower, but no one can mistake that it's a damn fast car. Here's his sig, and a link to a pretty good thread regarding superchargers in general.
B16 w/ Vortech Supercharger
15psi = 350hp & 221tq
6/01/03 = 12.3 @ 116mph


https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=737959&page=3



As for the 300whp jrsc, it's definately possible, with the right tools. Whether it's an IC, or nitrous, cooling is the only limiting factor on making power with the roots blower.
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