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Old 09-30-2005, 08:31 PM
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Default B18c1 Block B16a Head.....

Someone told me to go with a B18c1 block and B16a head, for reasons of compression. Trully I think just building a straight b18c1 motor FI, would be awesome and make huge numbers. But should i go with this setup? Just lookin for some experienced peoples opinions. Thanks
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Default Re: B18c1 Block B16a Head..... (RedlineKustomz)

those two are a great combo. i think its better b/c of flow on the b16 head. the b18c1 and the b16 head is similar to the type r motor just w/o the mild port and compression. Plus when it comes down to intake manifolds its easier to find some stuff for b16
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B18CI block+B16 head= Poor man's Type R

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Default Re: B18c1 Block B16a Head..... (SFWD 1934)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SFWD 1934 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">B18CI block+B16 head= Poor man's Type R

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He's not bein a dick, that's really what its called.

I would go either route, but it may be cheaper to do the b16/b18c1 combo rather than a straight gsr. They will both net you really good results if done right. GL.
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Default Re: B18c1 Block B16a Head..... (KeyserSoze)

b18c1/b16 head perfect combo for boost i....was my old setup free flowing head single runner intake manifold, lower c/r by .2 which yields 9.8:1 arp head studs and your set to boost away...
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So I should go with the b16a head and b18c1 block. I knwo he wasnt being a dick about poor mans type r. Would I still get the same numbers out of this setup as I want though. I am lookin for 500whp+, would it be easier or harder to achieve that with this motor setup, built internals, and turbo? THanks
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I have that setup and I will let the dyno show you what I made at low boost

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Default Re: B18c1 Block B16a Head..... (Lonnieboosted)

i would go with the poor man's R. as was said, stock block and stock head yeilds 9.8:1, which is a lil lower. to make the motor absolutely perfect, i would switch out the valvetrain and cams of the b16 with 2001 itr. .

Ps: thats the motor combo ill eventually do with boost
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Default Re: B18c1 Block B16a Head..... (blackeg)

woud u all like to review what i would do if i used this motor setup of a b18c1 block and b16a head? I mean I think with that setup and my turbo kit with my mods i have chose(not purchased) will get me well over my goal of at least 500whp. Thanks
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im sure a gsr head will make more power right?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eg:R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im sure a gsr head will make more power right? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Well the my understanding GSR head would make more power but the lower the compression on a FI motor the better. Cause if I udnerstand right the lower the compression the less psi u have to force out of the turbo to make bigger numbers, where as higher compression you gotta push out more psi to make about the same numbers. Could be wrong, I am still learning all this myself.
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Default Re: (RedlineKustomz)

i will post my ideas for the motor later on and let you all see if it has the potential to make 500whp +
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will this and a b16a head on b18c1 block make well over 500whp with good tuning?
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You will yield SLIGHTLY higher numbers on a higher compression block. The only difference is that the lower your compression the more room for error you have with tuning and the higher number you can run with pump gas.

You will not make a huge difference in numbers between the 2 heads. Just use whatever is available to you.
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Default Re: (95GSRTT)

That is the thing I have both. I have a b18c1 motor and a b16a motor. Cause the other motor I am goin to dump into my 96 hatch. So should I just build the whole b18c1?
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well if you have both, go ahead and throw on the b16 head. It flows a tad better up top I believe.

Either way if you are going to build your motor with new pistons and rods you can just select the compression piston you want. So it wont be as big of a worry.

Just flip a coin for it
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Default Re: (95GSRTT)

yea if there really want be a big difference or make power any better then i will just build the b18c1 motor then build the b16a later for my hatch.
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Default Re: (RedlineKustomz)

Well thanks everyone for your input and help on this, I believe though I will just keep the motors the same and not mix and match. LIke 95GSRTT said "it doesnt matter much if i cahnge pistons and rods. So I will just leave them and build both seperately
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