B16a Gt30r question.
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So its time to get a new snail, after hours and hours of searching ive decided upon the gt30r, simple right, wrong. The entire issue of a/r ratio is killing me. Ive seen valid arguments for .63 ar and for the .82 ar. Does anyone with this turbo regret getting the a/r they did or any advise? I would like to make 500whp, but if i fall short its cool.
setup 9:1 b16a itr cams jg victor x fullrace manifold ... bleh bleh bleh
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yeah, im not looking for max whp, ive read a couple thread where a .82 made 550+ I just want decent response out of my gay 1.6l
I've read about these a lot too since I have a B16a. What type of use is your car going to see mostly? If it is just a DD I'd get the .63 for the quicker response, but the .82 seems like it would just hold so much better up top. The response I don't think is that drastic. I'm considering the .82 since I autox and will see some track days.
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Im not sure what im going to do with my car, its not a dd, but at the same time i may track it. You think the .82 would be better?, My only fear of the .63 is lost of traction.
i have a .63 on my 400whp lsvtec with b16 tranny. im getting 14psi right around 5000. in second gear at 10psi im spinning on 225/50 bfgs. i really like the responsiveness of the turbo and for 400whp i think its great. for 500 i think the .82 is the better choice, the turbo will be more effecient for those power levels.
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I've had .63 and .82 housings.. .82 housing hands down..
The car was a lot most nasty up top with the .82
I actually raced a gsxr750 and lost with the .63 and re raced him same boost with the .82 and rolled him.
Just a thought..
dk
The car was a lot most nasty up top with the .82
I actually raced a gsxr750 and lost with the .63 and re raced him same boost with the .82 and rolled him.
Just a thought..
dk
is that on a b16a application?
For 400-480whp, the .63A/R is fine. You'll spend over $230 for switching out the turbine housing. they are not the same material makeup or internal volute as the standard T31 series.
A GSR, I know for sure the .63 would meet your goals but I dig the .82 housings and was never concerned about spool aslong as it was not so late I was droping out between shifts. I'm pretty sure my .63 spooled around 1k sooner than my 82 and still made well over 400hp on pump gas. I really don't think you could go wrong with either one.
So basically with a B16a2 and the Gt30r id be looking around 400. Sounds good. also would that be with 8:1 or 9:1?...im new to boost so im still learning
I see no reason to go 8:1 with only 400 whp let alone that low regardless. 9:1 would suit you just fine. I'm actually keeping my 9.9:1 when I go back to boost.
any opinions on that? I dont need over 350whp....like i said, its gonna be a DD
i think compression depends on what kind of fuel your going to use and whatever turbo you choose for max efficiency. obviously lower compression you can run higher boost than higher compression. pump gas you want to run lower compression. higher octane like ethanol you can run stock or higher compression. if i ever build my motor im doing 10.5:1. my buddy just put 11:1 pistons and aluminum rods in his evo. cant wait to see the numbers he puts down.
oh and yes its alot about the tune as well. either way you can make a lot of power on either setups.
oh and yes its alot about the tune as well. either way you can make a lot of power on either setups.
i think compression depends on what kind of fuel your going to use and whatever turbo you choose for max efficiency. obviously lower compression you can run higher boost than higher compression. pump gas you want to run lower compression. higher octane like ethanol you can run stock or higher compression. if i ever build my motor im doing 10.5:1. my buddy just put 11:1 pistons and aluminum rods in his evo. cant wait to see the numbers he puts down.
oh and yes its alot about the tune as well. either way you can make a lot of power on either setups.
oh and yes its alot about the tune as well. either way you can make a lot of power on either setups.
(9.1:1), CTR Intake cam, ITR Exhaust cam, Moroso oil pan, the engine is pretty much stock with Honda OEM parts.NEW USDM ITR Transmission with factory LSD.Brand new stage 3 Clutch and 7.5 lbs Fidanza Flywheel,
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This is part of the add the person included on the car. I of course shortened it but tell me what you think about this for a DD running pump gas and making around 250-400hp. Im also not looking to spin constantly being as i prob wont be making track appearances except maybe once or twice. Im in the military so the car is a DD driven on and off base. Cant be too crazy...haha
(9.1:1), CTR Intake cam, ITR Exhaust cam, Moroso oil pan, the engine is pretty much stock with Honda OEM parts.NEW USDM ITR Transmission with factory LSD.Brand new stage 3 Clutch and 7.5 lbs Fidanza Flywheel,
(9.1:1), CTR Intake cam, ITR Exhaust cam, Moroso oil pan, the engine is pretty much stock with Honda OEM parts.NEW USDM ITR Transmission with factory LSD.Brand new stage 3 Clutch and 7.5 lbs Fidanza Flywheel,



