BrothaSit

ok i have search and read all the threads on this site and i know everyone will take the gsr cams over the b16a cams for boost i even look at the specs on crower.com and it shows the gsr cams are bigger than the b16 but when i was looking up on how to identify a gsr cam i found this http://www.ff-squad.com/tech/cams/ctrcamspecs.gif is it me or the b16 cams are better than the gsr cams on ff-squad.com? if your wondering what is my setup i have a stock usdm gsr block with a stock b16a head and a t3-t04 turbo setup and the other thing is should i get the gsr cams or just get cam gears for my b16a cams?

ninesecrx

You posted a link to b16b cams...not b16a cams. GSR cams are better then b16A cams like everyone is telling you.

BrothaSit

yes i know they are comparing it to the ctr cams but compare the gsr and si cams on that page i posted up see the difference

BrothaSit

just found out the 2nd jdm b16a cams are the same as gsr but BETTER! now i just need cam gears
http://www.g-speed.com/pbh/b16a/

0morgan@synapse motorsport

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BrothaSit &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just found out the 2nd jdm b16a cams are the same as gsr but BETTER! now i just need cam gears
http://www.g-speed.com/pbh/b16a/</TD></TR></TABLE>


why dont you do a back to back on the dyno and compare for yourself. reading some numbers on a website isnt going to get you very far.

97_coupe

I know everybody says that the GSR cams are better but is it really worth the money in getting GSR cams to swap in a B16a, is it like 15WHP difference or do you only notice a difference when getting over a certain power mark like 300WHP or are you just better off saving some money and getting aftermarket cams for your B16a?

BMo Tuning

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BrothaSit &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just found out the 2nd jdm b16a cams are the same as gsr but BETTER! now i just need cam gears
http://www.g-speed.com/pbh/b16a/</TD></TR></TABLE>

According to that site the only difference between them is .1mm lift on the intake side, no duration changes whatsoever and the exhaust cam is identical in lift. Oh they have a little more overlap too.

So basically It will be like having stage 4 vtek.

BrothaSit

i wasnt looking at the dyno sheets i was look at the cam specs here let me show you what i saw on that page:

JDM B16A SiR2:
Intake opening: 15
intake closing: 45
intake duration: 240
exhaust opening: 40
exhaust closing: 7
exhaust duration: 227
overlap: 22
intake valve lift (mm): 10.7
exhaust valve lift (mm): 9.4
intake/exhaust valve springs: Dual/Single

vs.

USDM B18C1:
Intake opening: 10
intake closing: 40
intake duration: 230
exhaust opening: 40
exhaust closing: 7
exhaust duration: 227
overlap: 17
intake valve lift (mm): 10.6
exhaust valve lift (mm): 9.4
intake/exhaust valve springs: Dual/Single

All cam timing figures are the high rpm lobe. All figures from Honda, which are based on 1 mm (.0394") lift at valve

BrothaSit

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97_coupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I know everybody says that the GSR cams are better but is it really worth the money in getting GSR cams to swap in a B16a, is it like 15WHP difference or do you only notice a difference when getting over a certain power mark like 300WHP or are you just better off saving some money and getting aftermarket cams for your B16a?</TD></TR></TABLE>
yea people told me get gsr cams they are cheap and they are worth the money but when i look at the specs of my jdm b16a cams it shows that they are some what similar but BETTER than the gsr cams....since i got the facts straigten out im just gonna get some cam gears and get my car tuned!