B series tranny problem (snap ring)

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Old Sep 19, 2003 | 07:56 PM
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I'm desperate!
I can't get the snap ring to snap over the bearing on the countershaft.
I can get the two tranny cases to go together (flush). I also did the trick of dropping it a few times to try to get the countershaft to drop down. No luck.
The ring is spread over the bearing- but I need the countershaft to move up about the thickness of the snap ring so the ring can snap into the groove.
Any other suggestions??
Anyone in Western NY (Buffalo/Rochester/Syracuse) know how to do this? I would love to pay a visit with a 12 pack if there was a chance to end my misery.

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Ben
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Old Sep 19, 2003 | 09:15 PM
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Usually you can pull up on the bearing with needlenose pliers or pry it up with a flathead screwdriver. If that doesn't work then there's a problem, either in the case or with the bearing itself.
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Old Sep 20, 2003 | 12:48 AM
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I had this same problem, but I did as Tony1 suggested and took a flat head screwdriver and pried up from under the bearing. Just use the case as leverage, not too much force is needed and it should snap into place.
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Old Sep 20, 2003 | 05:01 AM
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Thanks for the replies. Luckily everyone isn't in NJ!
I've tried both of those things with no luck. When I pried with a screwdriver the shaft goes up slightly and then runs into something. I'm using snap ring pliers and I've made sure that the snap ring is properly spread. Any idea what the countershaft could be hitting on? Does it have to be in a certain gear? I can pull the counteshaft up to the correct high without the case on, but I can here something bumping into something when I pry it up.
I know it should work because I pulled the took the tranny apart.
Here are a couple pics...hopefully they'll be helpful-



gear selector-



Thanks so much!!!!!!
Ben
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Old Sep 20, 2003 | 05:10 AM
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Check the inside of the top half of the case. Make sure that bearing on the countershaft fits in the case smoothly. If there is a nick or a burr or somthing then it'll stop it from going all the way up. Pull the shafts out again and just put the counter in the top half to check it. If there is a nick or somthing then just dremel it out.
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Old Sep 20, 2003 | 05:46 AM
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I will now be naming by first born Tony1. Boy or girl...it doesn't matter.
Dremiling at them moment....
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Old Sep 20, 2003 | 05:57 AM
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B, I have had this happen so many times. I always put plenty of lube. Pull the ring out and have someone hold it open. Tighten the case down using everyother bolt. Get them nice and snug. Doing this will make the snap ring stay open so you dont have to hold it anymore. Get some old phone books. Turn the trans upside down and drop it on them. IT may take some time to get the stack to drop into place, but it will. Turn it back over and put the rest of the bolts in.

(This method works for trans that are assumed to be properly assembled.)

Jason
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Old Sep 20, 2003 | 06:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Blown90hatcH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">B, I have had this happen so many times. I always put plenty of lube. Pull the ring out and have someone hold it open. Tighten the case down using everyother bolt. Get them nice and snug. Doing this will make the snap ring stay open so you dont have to hold it anymore. Get some old phone books. Turn the trans upside down and drop it on them. IT may take some time to get the stack to drop into place, but it will. Turn it back over and put the rest of the bolts in.

(This method works for trans that are assumed to be properly assembled.)

Jason</TD></TR></TABLE>

Damn, I thought I was the only one that did that, haha!
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Old Sep 20, 2003 | 08:19 AM
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Thanks to all. Seems that when I did this a while ago and didn't open the snap ring all the way it nothed some aluminum so the shaft couldn't travel up. I just dremel'd it and magically it went up as it was supposed to. Instead of dropping- using a screwdriver and prying up on the top nut worked like a charm.
WOOOOOOHOOOOOOO!!!

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Old Jun 17, 2004 | 07:50 PM
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this is my same problem exactly. i'll check my tranny tomorow and see if i have a burr also. how big of a burr was it? was it very noticable?
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Old Jun 17, 2004 | 09:09 PM
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The easy way to put the outer case in without any problem is to shift to 4th gear. Make sure the 3rd/4th shilf fork is in up position when 4th gear is engage. Before the two trans cases sit flat, make sure the snap ring is spread over the bearing. Once the snap ring is spread over the bearing, push the two trans cases together flat, use the flat head screwdriver pry up the bearing and you are set.


Modified by porsche997 at 10:35 PM 6/17/2004
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