AUTO TRANNY WITH BOOST~
Anyone here boost a Teg with an sutomatic tranny?
I'm getting my turbo installed and I bought a torque converter from level ten. Is this safe enough for the transmission?
Specs on boost and power levels appreciated.
I'm getting my turbo installed and I bought a torque converter from level ten. Is this safe enough for the transmission?
Specs on boost and power levels appreciated.
Hey Wonny, actually I plan on doing the same thing to my girl's automatic LS. I'm going with a F-Max turbo. You got the torque converter already, that's good. Now all you need is a really big tranny cooler. Get the biggest one you can fit. Just try not to do too many 5K neutral drops, ok? HAHA
We turboed my friends automatic 93 prelude SI and the tranny acts kinda weird. It doesnt understand backpedaling and wheelspin. basically it translates into hitting the rev limiter alot and slow shifting. What you need is a manual valve body.
Is there any way to make the auto tranny smarter? Like an upgrade chip of some sort? My tranny is kinda dumb i think. Like when I'm driving and I full throttle it, it takes it aleast a good second to downshift. Its not immediate. Is there any way to get rid of this stupid lagging?
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Like when I'm driving and I full throttle it, it takes it aleast a good second to downshift. Its not immediate. Is there any way to get rid of this stupid lagging?
A stronger torque converter will help hold the extra HP. Also, a shift kit or stronger clutch discs will also help the auto tranny hold up to the additional HP.
As for the laggy downshift, you'll have to somehow "fool" the ECU into downshifting quicker for you. The ECU looks at engine load, rpms, speed, etc etc to determine if a downshift would be needed.
I would talk with LevelTen or Dunrite- Converters.com and ask them for some advice.
Hey wonny: I just turbocharged my LS motor and auto tranny (which was swapped into a del Sol). It's a RevHard stage 2, boost guage peaks to .4 BAR at WOT (about 5.7psi). The B18B and auto tranny are both bone stock.
I am *very very* interested in hearing about the results of the Level10 torque converter you got. It might be nice if you could install the turbo and try the stock torque converter first. But I imagine you probably want to pull the engine and put that new converter in first...
I haven't gotten a tranny cooler yet. The LS auto already comes with an internal tranny cooler. I've heard of people with Civic automatics busting with boost, but not with the Integra auto (not until high boost, like over 12psi).
Anyway, I've only had the turbo a week. The car is bad-*** fast. I really wish SCC, Turbo, or one of those magazines would put an article about Level10 -- how to do the install, what torque converter to get, and show how it really helps. It's not fun to spend like over $500 for something (like a torque converter) which doesn't really add any performance (or does it?).
I am *very very* interested in hearing about the results of the Level10 torque converter you got. It might be nice if you could install the turbo and try the stock torque converter first. But I imagine you probably want to pull the engine and put that new converter in first...
I haven't gotten a tranny cooler yet. The LS auto already comes with an internal tranny cooler. I've heard of people with Civic automatics busting with boost, but not with the Integra auto (not until high boost, like over 12psi).
Anyway, I've only had the turbo a week. The car is bad-*** fast. I really wish SCC, Turbo, or one of those magazines would put an article about Level10 -- how to do the install, what torque converter to get, and show how it really helps. It's not fun to spend like over $500 for something (like a torque converter) which doesn't really add any performance (or does it?).
well i have a boosted auto LS... just supercharged, not turbo'd.
runs pretty strong, but the tranny is pretty stupid most the time... only time it actually shifts correctly is when i race it from a stop. Otherwise it used to not want to downshift when I floored it, but that is probably because those f*ckers at St Andre's did something wrong. I havent replaced anything on the tranny, but i am sure a stronger torque converter will do wonders. But the shift is good when floored, 1st gear to redline then shifts, 2nd gear to redline, then shifts and 3rd will go all the way to redline if you leave it in D3, then shifts up to D4 when you shift up. I have no problems beating a lot of fast cars...
runs pretty strong, but the tranny is pretty stupid most the time... only time it actually shifts correctly is when i race it from a stop. Otherwise it used to not want to downshift when I floored it, but that is probably because those f*ckers at St Andre's did something wrong. I havent replaced anything on the tranny, but i am sure a stronger torque converter will do wonders. But the shift is good when floored, 1st gear to redline then shifts, 2nd gear to redline, then shifts and 3rd will go all the way to redline if you leave it in D3, then shifts up to D4 when you shift up. I have no problems beating a lot of fast cars...
This is great. I'm glad to see that all of you have auto teg and want boost. Believe it or not, this is the first time I have seen a response this huge to this topic. Perhaps I used the right Title for this thread.
Anyways, I have a lot to say.
First I want to tell you that I was running .45 bar on the automatic tranny when I had the turbo first installed. The tuning wasn't right and the oil return leaked, but DAMN DID THAT THING PULL! I loved passing gear... the time that it took for my tranny to downshift allowed for MAD boost to build up. I was on the highway and the tires would squeal at 45 in passing gear... that was with 17's! All in all I was very satisfied with the turbo - I didn't have any tranny problems. That was, until my engine blew out, causing damage to my tranny and turbine...
Which leads me to my new project:
I bought a new LS motor and a new transmission. tuned to hold about 7-8 lbs of boost, I'm hoping that all will be ok. The reason that I got the torque converter and the cooler is very simple. The torque converter is like the clutch in a manual tranny. Search it on google and you will understand why the torque converter is important. Think of it as a STRONGER LINK FROM THE ENGINE TO THE WHEELS. The reason that I got the tranny cooler is to keep the fluids cool. Cooler fluids now only clean, but they lubricate much better than hot fluids. Running boost causes more torque, more torque causes more heat, heat breaks down the tranny fluids and then seals begin to break. 90% of all auto tranny break downs are related to the heat that is built up in them. So the torque converter is to get the power to the wheels and the tranny cooler is to keep the power from killing my tranny via heat buildup.
I heard that level ten torque converters (or any aftermarket converter) will bring the temps up on the fluids so I advise to get that tranny cooler. They come in all shapes and sizes (from 40 bucks to 90 bucks. It is cheap considering my tranny cost me 950 fat ones.).
SEARCH ALL THESE TOPICS ON GOOGLE.com I learned all this stuff about the cooler today. So I told my garage to install it for me
and for those of you running 5lbs of boost... get a cheap boost controller and push it up to 7lbs. The motor can handle up to 10 lbs with GOOD fuel tuning. Let's keep this thread going.
Payce out AUTO tegs. HAHAAHAH...
Anyways, I have a lot to say.
First I want to tell you that I was running .45 bar on the automatic tranny when I had the turbo first installed. The tuning wasn't right and the oil return leaked, but DAMN DID THAT THING PULL! I loved passing gear... the time that it took for my tranny to downshift allowed for MAD boost to build up. I was on the highway and the tires would squeal at 45 in passing gear... that was with 17's! All in all I was very satisfied with the turbo - I didn't have any tranny problems. That was, until my engine blew out, causing damage to my tranny and turbine...
Which leads me to my new project:
I bought a new LS motor and a new transmission. tuned to hold about 7-8 lbs of boost, I'm hoping that all will be ok. The reason that I got the torque converter and the cooler is very simple. The torque converter is like the clutch in a manual tranny. Search it on google and you will understand why the torque converter is important. Think of it as a STRONGER LINK FROM THE ENGINE TO THE WHEELS. The reason that I got the tranny cooler is to keep the fluids cool. Cooler fluids now only clean, but they lubricate much better than hot fluids. Running boost causes more torque, more torque causes more heat, heat breaks down the tranny fluids and then seals begin to break. 90% of all auto tranny break downs are related to the heat that is built up in them. So the torque converter is to get the power to the wheels and the tranny cooler is to keep the power from killing my tranny via heat buildup.
I heard that level ten torque converters (or any aftermarket converter) will bring the temps up on the fluids so I advise to get that tranny cooler. They come in all shapes and sizes (from 40 bucks to 90 bucks. It is cheap considering my tranny cost me 950 fat ones.).
SEARCH ALL THESE TOPICS ON GOOGLE.com I learned all this stuff about the cooler today. So I told my garage to install it for me
and for those of you running 5lbs of boost... get a cheap boost controller and push it up to 7lbs. The motor can handle up to 10 lbs with GOOD fuel tuning. Let's keep this thread going.
Payce out AUTO tegs. HAHAAHAH...
Well, although my auto is not yet boosted, it is gassed. I must say though that I am on my 3rd tranny in the car since the motor swap. I am planning on getting the Level 10 buildup. Hopefully that wil hold the power. As for the tranny downshifitng quicker, contact Level 10. They have a computer that runs in line with your car that allows you to tune the tranny, and shift it when you want.
I ran a greddy Turbo kit on my old '98 Civic EX 4 door at 6-8psi for 5000 absolutely trouble free miles. I know you asked about a 'teg but just thought I'd toss my 0.2 in there.
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I ran a greddy Turbo kit on my old '98 Civic EX 4 door at 6-8psi for 5000 absolutely trouble free miles. I know you asked about a 'teg but just thought I'd toss my 0.2 in there.
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I sold the car and bought an Si, my best friend ran the indentical setup in his 94 EX too, had his kit for 15,000+ miles before selling it w/ no problems either.
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Wonny: can you describe or take pictures of your tranny cooler install? I saw some tranny coolers at Pep Boys, from $30-60 or so. It's a tranny oil cooler right? On top of the auto tranny ('teg LS), there are two hoses that run into the radiator. Does the trany cooler go between those hoses?? Is there a difference between tranny oil cooler and a tranny cooler??
WAssup AutoSol,
I really don't know exactly where the cooler is going to go but I saw some install pics from someone else. I am having my garage do the work. The tranny cooler will come up to the front of the car. It looks like a little radiator or intercooler (small vessel with fins to dissapate heat) so it need to be somewhere "cooler." Run the hoses to the front and mount the tranny cooler with behind the radiator (which is what someone did) or mount it in front (if you don't have an intercooler). Do't take my word for it, do a search I'm sure that you can find something about the install.
Good luck,
Payce.
I really don't know exactly where the cooler is going to go but I saw some install pics from someone else. I am having my garage do the work. The tranny cooler will come up to the front of the car. It looks like a little radiator or intercooler (small vessel with fins to dissapate heat) so it need to be somewhere "cooler." Run the hoses to the front and mount the tranny cooler with behind the radiator (which is what someone did) or mount it in front (if you don't have an intercooler). Do't take my word for it, do a search I'm sure that you can find something about the install.
Good luck,
Payce.
Wonny: can you describe or take pictures of your tranny cooler install? I saw some tranny coolers at Pep Boys, from $30-60 or so. It's a tranny oil cooler right? On top of the auto tranny ('teg LS), there are two hoses that run into the radiator. Does the trany cooler go between those hoses?? Is there a difference between tranny oil cooler and a tranny cooler??
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if he got a torque converter, then he won't have to do neutral drops. before he got the converter, he was supposed to specify a stall speed. the factory stall is about 2k (what it goes to when you brake and throttle). if you launch at 5k...that means you get a 5k stall set in and the company has to adjust your stall and that is the most important thing. maybe you want it a little lower but it just depends on what the powerband looks like.
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hey steve, it's kevin...i hooked my tranny cooler in series with the radiator section and i am about to put a fan to really cool the fluid because the i/c blocks it well. you can mount it over the radiator but mine is where the a/c radiator used to be and it gets pretty hot but it just needs another fan tripped on always. the tranny cooler is just bypassed in one of the lines that goes to the radiator...i used the one near the middle of the car. wasn't too hard at all to put in.
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should mount it in series with the radiator section because it will cool better! that's how i did mine but it was only logical to me and i am going to mount a fan on my tranny cooler to run all the time when the ignition switch is on.



Its nice to see fast automatics. I hope someday I will be fast