ARP head studs or bust! Wtf?

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Old Dec 1, 2012 | 01:00 PM
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^ keep em comin. 340whp in my eg should push low 11 im thinkin if i can hook up the slicks and not break anything

how much boost and what turbo if you dont mind?
Old Dec 1, 2012 | 02:04 PM
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You don't judge how much psi you would need to achieve x goal. 340 is highly doubtable to get you into the low 11's. just like sayin with 400whp you'll run 10's guarantee! Do you have an LSD? I can't remember if you had that in your build or not. Ill just put it this way, the more power you create the more you need to invest in keeping it on the ground, ya dig
Old Dec 1, 2012 | 02:33 PM
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This thread is starting to get on my nerves. PSI! PSI! PSI! BOOST BOOST BOOST! POWER! POWER! POWER! Yet doesn't want to do what needs to be done to make it safe but wants the bleeding edge he can get out of his poor engine. Another one that wants to half-*** it and fishing for people to tell him its okay.

You think because one person got 340 YOU will? OMMFG When the next one claims 400hp or 500hp on a stock block are you going to believe you can get that too?
Old Dec 1, 2012 | 02:40 PM
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Head studs, head lifting, etc.. is based on the average span of torque output, not HP.

B16's can get further in HP with stock motor because they can carry their torque band to a high redline. It is a form of efficiency. Big WHP and low WTQ is far less demanding on the head studs/gasket.

The other factor is bore size.. This will determine the surface area in which the upward forces is acting against the cylinder head. Big bore Hondas are also more demanding on better studs/gasket as well as coping with less sealing surface when bore gets larger.

Stock B16 on an Ebay T3/T4? My guess is that you should get some ARP headstuds in there. This turbo fall off its face at higher RPM, so you are stuck with making more torque and lesser overall WHP.
Old Dec 1, 2012 | 08:09 PM
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im looking to use a turbo such as a precision 3254 since this thing falls off and probably wont reach the goal. im also leaning to do the block as well.

at the same time i have a b18c to donate once the b16a gives out and should be building it instead.

so more than likly the arp studs, 3bar and some tuning to atleast 320hp

save the built head and forged unsleeved block for later.

LSD sir tranny in this car

turbo

http://www.precisionturbo.net/turboc...er---3254E/473
Old Dec 3, 2012 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by SiRCiviC94
^ keep em comin. 340whp in my eg should push low 11 im thinkin if i can hook up the slicks and not break anything

how much boost and what turbo if you dont mind?

Holset HE351cw (60mm); Also as previously stated, this power level will not get into the low 11's unless drastic weight reductions. I went 12.30 at 120-125 ish (forget exact MPH);

We made this power level on a dyno pack at just under 14lbs... I think data log says 13.2; again, stock motor, not a lot of timing in it, but large turbo so a lot of factors to consider.
Old Dec 3, 2012 | 04:04 PM
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i got a 12.69 with a 2.1ish 60ft tuned for 7lbs rich. theres room to grow.

the ARP rod bolts are the next option...I am going to use arp studs, and gsr cams or a built head I have decided for now. upgrade the turbo.

shoot for as much power the tuner will go
Old Dec 3, 2012 | 05:42 PM
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How much whp are you making again? Arp rod bolts on stock rods? Hmm, idk about that, not sure if that'll work on a stock rod the way you may think it will but I could be wrong. You do realize it's hard to get into the 11's, do you? I wouldn't be surprised if you need additional 80whp to achieve it.
Old Dec 3, 2012 | 05:53 PM
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Buddy made 400+ on oem reused head bolts on his b16 and never had any problems, not to mention a few other jimmy rigs on the motor. I wouldn't worry about the head bolts/gasket at your power level. If it's tuned properly those won't be a problem, if its not tuned properly those won't help.
Old Dec 3, 2012 | 07:28 PM
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Twas only 230-240 on the mustang dyno. Bald street tire.

If I can gain 8mph in the qm and get a 1.7 60ft that's 11.9 for sureeee plus going lighter
Old Dec 3, 2012 | 08:19 PM
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Getting into the 11's is not the issue, its going low 11s that will take some effort. In my opinion your going to need at least 350whp, slicks and a good driver to touch 11.3 or better.
Old Dec 4, 2012 | 05:32 AM
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Lol yea i read that low 11 back. Stock b16a would take a serious wild driver and like 400 :p
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Originally Posted by SiRCiviC94
Twas only 230-240 on the mustang dyno. Bald street tire.

If I can gain 8mph in the qm and get a 1.7 60ft that's 11.9 for sureeee plus going lighter
Wow dude your logic just doesn't make much sense
Old Dec 4, 2012 | 09:02 AM
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So this thread went from studs to drag racing.... the ****?
Someone lock this and ban the troll already
Old Dec 4, 2012 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by wantboost
So this thread went from studs to drag racing.... the ****?
Someone lock this and ban the troll already
Yeah, this went downhill fast. I'll lock it up, but i can't go around banning everyone, althought some days i'd like to
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