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Old Feb 5, 2003 | 04:41 AM
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Default Alternatives to GM 3 BAR?

I was just wondering if there were any alternatives to GM 3 BAR MAP sensors...anybody using something else?
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Old Feb 5, 2003 | 06:10 AM
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Default Re: Alternatives to GM 3 BAR? (MiraiZ)

Why are you asking?

I'm running a GM 2 Bar currently. However I just ordered an "MSD" 3 bar off of summit racing for $48, which is the same as a GM 3-bar.
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Old Feb 5, 2003 | 06:16 AM
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Default Re: Alternatives to GM 3 BAR? (Speed PHreak)

However I just ordered an "MSD" 3 bar off of summit racing for $48, which is the same as a GM 3-bar.
will the "MSD" 3 bar plug in, or do you still need the plug/harness thingy?
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Old Feb 5, 2003 | 06:18 AM
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Default Re: Alternatives to GM 3 BAR? (ricodemus)

will the "MSD" 3 bar plug in, or do you still need the plug/harness thingy?
You'll still need the harness "thingy". You can pick them up at Pep boys, auto zone, ect.
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Old Feb 5, 2003 | 07:44 AM
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Default Re: Alternatives to GM 3 BAR? (Speed PHreak)

You'll still need the harness "thingy". You can pick them up at Pep boys, auto zone, ect.
What part do I ask them for? what car,year, etc.? Thanks....
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Old Feb 5, 2003 | 07:50 AM
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http://www.hondata.com/3barinstall.html

That out to help you with the install. Any of the 3 pronged weather pack style GM connectors will work, you just may have to key them the same as your GM MAP sensor.

My 3 Bar shipped out today, if you guys need one , $48 is a about as cheap as you're gonna find them. Summit Racing has them in stock right now, they have been backordered for a while. List price on that sensor from GM is about $100.......

Sorry for derailing your original topic MiraiZ. I guess you could always TRY and convert over to something like a MAF style sensor. I'd be cool as hell if you pioneered it and got it done. Mustang's use them I think, and we all know how cheap/easy to find domestic parts are.


[Modified by Speed PHreak, 11:55 AM 2/5/2003]
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Old Feb 5, 2003 | 07:58 AM
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Default Re: Alternatives to GM 3 BAR? (Speed PHreak)

gmpartsdirect.com has the gm 3bar maps for 52 if anyone need them
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Old Feb 5, 2003 | 09:49 AM
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Sorry for derailing your original topic MiraiZ. I guess you could always TRY and convert over to something like a MAF style sensor.
No workee. MAF output is non-linear, and speed density ECUs wouldn't exactly like raw flow measurements. I could probably figure out wtf was going on with a little trial and error and make one work, but I don't think it would run that great.

I have a 2.5 bar (?) sensor off of a Toyota Previa turbo van. I think it's the same used with the Supras, I could be wrong about that. I have a Chrysler one here somewhere, too, totally forget it's supposed spec. If you have an adjustable setup (AFC, SMC, or other MAP voltage altering device... or a configurable stand alone like the EMS) you can make any non-Ford or non-early 'inverted' GM MAP sensor work like a charm.

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Old Feb 5, 2003 | 10:28 AM
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I have a 2.5 bar (?) sensor off of a Toyota Previa turbo van.
Its Supercharged, hehe, i own one.
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Old Feb 5, 2003 | 11:16 AM
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Default Re: Alternatives to GM 3 BAR? (Speed PHreak)

I was looking for something a bit more stock looking...I know it shouldn't matter though. I heard that Apexi makes one but I can't find one anywhere.
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