xXx Justin xXx

i never thought twice til i just did a search. if i run the new safc-II on my d16y7 and greddy kit at 11psi. have it tuned.. not sure which injectors. and some check valves or missing link.. will it be safe? or am i likely to just blow it up? this will be with a new y8 head gasket, copper spray, NUFORMZ block gaurd, and a freshly resurfaced head.

just want to make sure before i waste my $ on the safc

kpt4321

If you run the correct size injectors (450+), you will be fine.

The car will not run as well as it could though.

ITSTOCK

I wouldnt even waste the time with the afc. We did an uberdata setup on my buddies 93 hatch back last night and it runs 10x smoother then teh hack ever did, i will never ever run the hack again and will never recommend it for anyone, do it right the first time!

_jester_

STFU- I ran the hack for over a year, it ran and idled like stock and didn't have any transition hiccups-

The hack will do you great!! You can't run over 10 psi or you will go in limp mode.

Do a search, you will find plenty of info-=

tilt

my afc is working just fine.

ITSTOCK

I've also ran the hack on 3 different turbo setups of mine in the past. The last 2 i ran it with i could never get the timing straightened out enough, detonated no matter what i did and blew up 2 motors. GOODBYE HACK, and welcome Uberdata. Why spend the 200+ on the hack when you can burn chips for under $100???

xXx Justin xXx

well the AFC is tunable... once you burn a chip. thats it isnt it? and why would i throw a CEL or go into limp mode over 10psi as long as i use check valves or something. i had hondata on my old hatch. but this OBD-2 **** sucks...

and it has to stay working obd-2 cuz thats how NC inspections are done. plug them into a computer that reads through everything. would the obd-2 try to correct this also?

xXx Justin xXx

just tring to find the best affordable way to get the most, safely out of my car.. or else ill just sell the turbo and or car...either get a gsr teg. or a 92-95 ex coupe and boost it. (old car was 94 hatch)

Mad Cow

Buy an obd1 conversion harness and obd1 ecu.. then switch back for emissions?

ITSTOCK

Damn sux your obd-2 and that your state is gay like that, if i were you id buy a 95 under car and swap all your **** over to it, i never liked 96+ cars anyways

xXx Justin xXx

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i was going to do this, and run hondata in a obd-1 dx ecu. but i dont feel like spending the $ for a 92-95 dx ecu, ecu jumper harness, then hondata.. blah blah.. more trouble than its all worth if you ask me

_jester_

why couldn't you fix the timing? I was running a ******* skunk2 chipped ecu, that advances the timing? I had not a single problem. I ran a 13.7 at 104 with a roasted 3rd gear syncrho at MIR.... (b16 - 10psi - Greddy kit - hack) I am going a whole new route this time just because i plan on making alot more power-

*edit* my initial timing was retarded as hell-fyi i think it was 10 or 12 dbtdc-

ITSTOCK

If i retarded the timing as far back as it would go, and ran it as rich as possible before throwing a code, it would still detonate. But some people do have better luck with the hack. IMO i would never run it again.

xXx Justin xXx

this is why i made this post. im tring to decide what i should do. i like my hatch. but damnit. my old eh2 was just so much simpler not worring about obd2 crap and inspections. all i know is the FMU setup sucked ****.. and the blue box is faster. but spark knocks hardcore on stock timing, and sucks *** until full boost. the bogg is disgusting

Del_Slowest

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The hack will do you great!! You can't run over 10 psi or you will go in limp mode.

Do a search, you will find plenty of info-= </TD></TR></TABLE>


Mine worked perfectly also......see the sig

USDM 4G VTEC

yea yea yea

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Mine worked perfectly also......see the sig </TD></TR></TABLE>

fjt

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Its funny cause my friend D16y7 coupe runs extremelly well with the AFC hack.
Consistent 12.6 @109MPH times on a Coupe So that means that with Hondata or uberdata he could be in the 11's?

I still dont understand why ppl in here hate the AFC hack so much.

dfoxengr

many mixed feelings, mine is if you tune it itll be fine. just not as many fuel curve points that you can change...

boosted-delslow

You can run over 10psi on the hack!!!! My freind is running 15+ psi on the hack with no problems!!!

xXx Justin xXx

well i was wanting the afc-II. can tne in 200 rpm incriments instead of 500 like the 1st afc. i guess ill go ahead and buy one and go tune. what else do you recommend? dsm 450s and maybe a better intank? thanks

pip9

ha. i ran a 13.8 with a stock z6 civic coupe turboed at 9psi at MIR last year. It still has a messed up 3rd gear syncro and the timing was set back about 5 degree retarded from stock. Only had 310's fmu and safc. but i had a t3/t4 turbo.
I'm about to run the hack with my new setup, until i can save up for something better. I just about cleared out my bank account trying to put my car back to the way it was before. My buddies stock gsr hatch turbo ran 11's last season at MIR with a fmu 440s and an afc. So you can definitely still be pretty quick with the hack. If i were you though, it sounds like u can afford it, so i would just go through the hassle of putting hondata back in ur car. That way u can tune everything and not just the fuel curve.


Modified by pip9 at 4:44 PM 3/26/2004

infinatenexus

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOHC b00st &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i never thought twice til i just did a search. if i run the new safc-II on my d16y7 and greddy kit at 11psi. have it tuned.. not sure which injectors. and some check valves or missing link.. will it be safe? or am i likely to just blow it up? this will be with a new y8 head gasket, copper spray, NUFORMZ block gaurd, and a freshly resurfaced head.

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I have one word for you.. Hondata

tek_civic

hehe i run 14 psi(at track only) with my safc hack. through calculations thats the max psi boost i can run at my elevation, without breaking the map sensor. its well tuned using a wideband O2 and at the track i throw in a little 96 octane. i wouldn't recommend doing this unless your at a high elevation like me(5000 ft at school, 8,000 ft at home)