<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mskibbz-T &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My biggest PITA has been getting the EMS to properly read the A/F values, it is hella tough to get the FJO unit display to match with the EMS. The EMS only reads 0-3V so won't it still need to be calibrated in the EMS with another W02? Or does AEM have some trick up their sleeves?</TD></TR></TABLE>


No, the EMS reads 0-5v.

 

400-500 is way to much in my opinion. personally i would just wait for the techedge v.2.0. it will do the exact same thing, give the same 0-5v output for the EMS guys, they already have a display available, and it will have a lot of features like datalogging. although a price for the techedge 2.0 has not been set yet, you can bet anything that it will be much less than the AEM. just my thoughts on this...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by keebler65 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">400-500 is way to much in my opinion. personally i would just wait for the techedge v.2.0. it will do the exact same thing, give the same 0-5v output for the EMS guys, they already have a display available, and it will have a lot of features like datalogging. although a price for the techedge 2.0 has not been set yet, you can bet anything that it will be much less than the AEM. just my thoughts on this...</TD></TR></TABLE>

remember that it comew/ wideband sensor too.

 

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true ...but you really only need to see the values when u r tuning...

even tho it would be nice to have a small readout.

 

cant wait to see the price...

 

it would be great if it was under $400

 

I wonder if we'll be able to use a palm pilot for the display / datalogging.

 

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true, but keep in mind this isnt like the L1H1 sensor - its going to be cheap and easy to find.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LegacyTuning &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I wonder if we'll be able to use a palm pilot for the display / datalogging.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you wont be able to, unless some third party came out with an interface box that would go between the AEM and the palm. they dont even have a display available (yet) let alone a palm setup, but who knows with time.

 

speaking of datalogging... is there any other way to datalog from here (besides using the aem ems)?...

 

bump 4 a good topic

 

300 w/ the sensor would he a dream

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by keebler65 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

true, but keep in mind this isnt like the L1H1 sensor - its going to be cheap and easy to find.

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the techedge 2.0 will be able to use the same sensor that the AEM will. And while this bosch isn't that hard to find it's not that cheap yet. Last I saw it was upwards of $130. Before this whole thing recently with the L1H1 production coming to an end they were much cheaper and hence plenty abundant than this bosch one that's being used. Any NAPA parts could get it for you. If you looked hard enough and got it at the right time an L1H1 could be had for under $80. The bosch isn't that cheap yet so don't fool yourself.

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I'd be alot more optimistic about the bosch sensor than the l1h1 though. At least the bosch is used for a variety of current cars whereas the l1h1 is used on 1 out of production car.

The problem hasn't been finding the l1h1 sensor, but finding it other than at the dealer who charges 350. As Moosehead pointed out, Honda owns the rights to the sensor and it looks like the Honda dealer will be the only place to get the sensors.

 

will the L1H1 be compatible with the new aem unit tho? i'd hafta assume it would be unless AEM explicitly finds a way to exclude it from being used. aem is just including another sensor because its cheaper and more obtainable right? not because it functions any differently? just curious

-alan

 

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The problem hasn't been finding the l1h1 sensor, but finding it other than at the dealer who charges 350. As Moosehead pointed out, Honda owns the rights to the sensor and it looks like the Honda dealer will be the only place to get the sensors.
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Not the case at all. That's a very recent change. You used to be able to find it anywhere. NAPA carried it for a long time as well as other auto parts stores up until about 2 or 3 weeks ago.

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No it won't. They work a little bit differently so the controller has to be made for a certain sensor. That's why people are waiting for the techedge 2.0 because it will be able to use the same bosch sensor, right now you can only use the L1H1.

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Not the case at all. That's a very recent change. You used to be able to find it anywhere. NAPA carried it for a long time as well as other auto parts stores up until about 2 or 3 weeks ago.
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I am not saying it was always hard to find. There is no point in bringing up how it used to be easy to find the L1H1 at a reasonable price, because it means nothing to people trying to find it today and in the future.

Ultimately, the future outlook on the availability for the L1H1 looks negative and the LSU looks positive.