messy hatch

Has anyone heard of them? i would like to retune my car when i get new injectors. If someone can recommend somewhere else close to san diego it would be greatly appreciated =]

PrettyLude

aebs is know for the sleeves, i never knew they tuned cars

TheShodan

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They do MUCH more than just sleeving. They are a full tunning shop.. One of the best places in your area. Highly recommended

smoovy

hey messyhatch if you want to get your car tuned, I can talk to Roger from AEBS so he can hook you up. what kind of management tuning are you having done? Hondata, afc, msd??? let me know

Enthalpy

AEBS is a bunch of jokers. stay away from them.

Lei Siew Long

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by smoovy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey messyhatch if you want to get your car tuned, I can talk to Roger from AEBS so he can hook you up. what kind of management tuning are you having done? Hondata, afc, msd??? let me know</TD></TR></TABLE>

MSD? he doesn't even work there anymore.

boosted92

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Enthalpy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">AEBS is a bunch of jokers. stay away from them.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Sarcasm?

smoovy

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MSD? he doesn't even work there anymore. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I know. that's why he has more time to tune. do you know him? do you kick it with him?

Lei Siew Long

i know him but, i don't hang out with him. i just have a business relationship with him. i don't see how he has more time to tune since he has a day job.

Enthalpy

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boosted92 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sarcasm?</TD></TR></TABLE>


no. not sarcasm. those guys are the biggest clown dicks and frauds in the industry. how about:

sent a block to them on a "sponsor deal" to have a motor build featured in a Nissan book written by a very prominant writer.

I was told 2 weeks....it took 4 months.

when i got the block the sleeves were in it 1mm out of center toward the exhaust side.

the top of the block was decked at an angle.

I specified 0.004" piston-wall for 600whp application. the bored it to over 0.007" piston-wall

they told me i would need custom pistons to make 600...due to the proximity of the top ring. (not true)

The owner of the company refused to talk to me about resolving the problem.

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next they sleeved ablock for a friends QR25DE turbo project...

it dropped the sleeves

they got him another block

it ate piston skirts due to the sleeve design.

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next they built a 2.2L big bore SR for an acquantince of mine.

it smoked from startup.

1200 miles later after the smoke got so bad...he tore it down

having never even boosted the motor past 7 psi he found:

torn up bearings.
piston skits that had scored the cylinder walls and killed the rings

excessive piston-wall clearance 0.007"+ again.

When he tried to contact them he was told that he rant the motor too lean and damged it. the car was tuned to run 15.0:1 at crusing, 13.5:1 at light acceleration, 11.8:1 at 7 psi. timin was correct. he was told he should have been runnign the motor at 13.5:1 crusing, 12.0:1 light accel, 10.5:1 @ 7psi...adn that he casued his own failure...tough luck.

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so yes... i would say they are incometent clown dicks....at best.

sasha_mitchell

^^ damn.

smoovy

damn I'm sorry you had that experience!!! your the FIRST!!!! I've never heard that much stuff, but I heard they do everything in house now. I don't know if that might have been the root of your problem . everything I heard was in house now so if it's messed up then it's all AEBS.

Enthalpy

yes, all work was done in house.

smoovy

how long ago was this? that sounds so crappy. I would hate to pay so much for engine work to have it fail.

ATS*Mark

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not true . i love my block , but i was told a week and it took 3 months

Enthalpy

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by smoovy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how long ago was this? that sounds so crappy. I would hate to pay so much for engine work to have it fail.</TD></TR></TABLE>

this was all within the past 8 months.

hatchinprogress

well a buddy of mine had his car dynoed/tuned by aries(think thats how you spell it) and he did a god job

i2un

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I don't think Aries is the regular tuner. I think he just uses the shop every now and again.

hatchinprogress

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I don't think Aries is the regular tuner. I think he just uses the shop every now and again.</TD></TR></TABLE> yeah now that i think about, i think your right

Blue-Civic-Hybrid

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I had a problem with AEBS tuning my Hondata S100, they almost blew up my motor about a year ago. I doubt i will ever go there again to have my Hondata tuned since I found Church Automotive.

After I went to Church, Shawn showed me how bad they "tuned" my car and I picked up over 35 WHP and about 30ft/lbs of torque thanks to Church.

Scotty B

I have never had any problems, other than then taking a really LONG time. The quality is very good, but it took them 6 months to Sleeve a VQ35 (Nissan 350Z) we sent them. That motor is fairly new, and they are the only co. producing sleeves at that time.. So I will give them that... On a B18c-R race Motor we sent to them the piston to wall clearance wasclaimed to be too big, and the bottom end balancing was of by 3 grams. That is alot. We did not end up assembling this motor, so I did not see this myself. This was coming from a reliable race team though. I know they DO NOT do there balancing in house. (Or at least not 8 months ago) This also took longer than expected. We have used them to sleeve other race motors, with no prblems at all. The quality was visually very good, and it took alot of abuse......

TYPERman2001

aebs is a bunch of newbies look at the guys that work there all newies

worst place to go and they charge an arm and leg

i tuned my car there and i was dissapointed and they told me my bosh platinum plugs were bad so they sodl me ngk plugs and my car lost 1hp and i had to pay $20 for the plugs , threw my old platinum plugs back in and the hp went back up to normal


i was so roger u guys told me i need new plugs i bought them for $20 and i lost hp with them do i get a refund for your mistake hes like nope, if we make a mistake u pay for it i was like thats fucked up and i fucken cut out from there. **** aebs

took them 15 runs to tune my car when shawn church only needs 4-5 runs


aebs = newbies/rippoff

rogers like bosh sucks but according to the dyno the ngk lost 1hp so how is he right hes not hes a dumbass

Lei Siew Long

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TYPERman2001 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">aebs is a bunch of newbies look at the guys that work there all newies

worst place to go and they charge an arm and leg

i tuned my car there and i was dissapointed and they told me my bosh platinum plugs were bad so they sodl me ngk plugs and my car lost 1hp and i had to pay $20 for the plugs , threw my old platinum plugs back in and the hp went back up to normal


i was so roger u guys told me i need new plugs i bought them for $20 and i lost hp with them do i get a refund for your mistake hes like nope, if we make a mistake u pay for it i was like thats fucked up and i fucken cut out from there. **** aebs

took them 15 runs to tune my car when shawn church only needs 4-5 runs


aebs = newbies/rippoff

rogers like bosh sucks but according to the dyno the ngk lost 1hp so how is he right hes not hes a dumbass
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ROFL. what in the hell? no comprende


Modified by Lei Siew Long at 10:35 AM 1/10/2005

DVC2008

ehh they are a man down and they have this new guy David working there, hes a chump

RICE POLICE SIP

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damn, I had no Idea they were THAT damn bad....