absolutely necessary guages for boost?
12-12-2004, 03:05 PM
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the only thing that is absolutely necessary is the boost guage. With the wideband you will be fine. Everything else is just what you want and how much ushurance <--(spelling) you want.
12-12-2004, 03:38 PM
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Re: (fastcivicboy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fastcivicboy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ushurance <--(spelling) </TD></TR></TABLE>
I had to jump in on this one. Assurance
Anyways I have boost, EGT---wideband got stolen
, and Oil pressure
I had to jump in on this one. Assurance
Anyways I have boost, EGT---wideband got stolen
, and Oil pressure
12-12-2004, 04:01 PM
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you dont really need an oilk pressure gauge. it just shows you that you have a suffiecent amount of oil (in other words you dont have a terrible oil leak). i have one but really if u just check your oil dipstick every few days and dont notice any leaks then you really dont need it.
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12-12-2004, 04:36 PM
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The only gauge i have is the gay *** APC boost gauge that read in bar, I barely know what it is at but i know that my boost cut is set at 11psi and tuned that way. Work for a while, i plan on getting a wideband to see my A/F.
12-12-2004, 08:21 PM
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Re: (fafsa)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fafsa »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
so no need with egt if i get the wbo2?</TD></TR></TABLE>
want to know this too, i have oil pressure, boost and a wbo2
so no need with egt if i get the wbo2?</TD></TR></TABLE>
want to know this too, i have oil pressure, boost and a wbo2
12-12-2004, 08:26 PM
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On my next setup I'm going to dyno tune, and run just a boost gauge. If your car is tuned already, and your not planning on messing with the maps at all, the wideband may be an expensive light show. Also, if your car is tuned, the egt's equate to about what the wideband will tell you. If it's tuned, just go with boost. Oil pressure if your trying to spoil yourself. Nice, but not neccessary.
12-12-2004, 08:40 PM
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Re: absolutely necessary guages for boost? (fafsa)
Wideband + boost gauge. Oil pressure is optional, albeit recommended, since you have the warning light (read the double meaning in that one).
"EGT is useless unless you want to tap all four cylinders. Junk information."
"EGT is useless unless you want to tap all four cylinders. Junk information."
12-12-2004, 08:41 PM
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Re: absolutely necessary guages for boost? (J. Davis)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stealthmode62 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> On my next setup I'm going to dyno tune, and run just a boost gauge. If your car is tuned already, and your not planning on messing with the maps at all, the wideband may be an expensive light show. Also, if your car is tuned, the egt's equate to about what the wideband will tell you. If it's tuned, just go with boost. Oil pressure if your trying to spoil yourself. Nice, but not neccessary. </TD></TR></TABLE>
im about to tune my own car with uberdata. sry i didnt mention that at first.
so, the wideband was already a must, and so is the boost gauge.
</TD></TR></TABLE>im about to tune my own car with uberdata. sry i didnt mention that at first.
so, the wideband was already a must, and so is the boost gauge.
12-12-2004, 08:48 PM
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Re: absolutely necessary guages for boost? (fafsa)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fafsa »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im about to tune my own car with uberdata. sry i didnt mention that at first.
so, the wideband was already a must, and so is the boost gauge.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well, since UD will display boost in the datalogs, you can technically do without it. Set boost cut, and if you ever hit boost cut then you know you have a problem. If you're on a really tight budget, like most UD kids, you can save a few bucks that way.
so, the wideband was already a must, and so is the boost gauge.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well, since UD will display boost in the datalogs, you can technically do without it. Set boost cut, and if you ever hit boost cut then you know you have a problem. If you're on a really tight budget, like most UD kids, you can save a few bucks that way.
12-12-2004, 08:55 PM
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Re: absolutely necessary guages for boost? (J. Davis)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by J. Davis »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Well, since UD will display boost in the datalogs, you can technically do without it. Set boost cut, and if you ever hit boost cut then you know you have a problem. If you're on a really tight budget, like most UD kids, you can save a few bucks that way. </TD></TR></TABLE>
hehe yeah but im sure i can shell out like $40 for a mechanical boost gauge. thanks for the clearifacation j. davis and everyone else.
what boost gauges does everyone have expeirence with that has acurate readings? ive seen almost a 50/50 split with autometer so whats up?
and where to buy for the cheapest prices?
ahh, since i cant PM yet. this is to j.davis...
ive heard the stock low oil light reads a little to late, meaning once it's on your probably already screwed? any truth to that?
Well, since UD will display boost in the datalogs, you can technically do without it. Set boost cut, and if you ever hit boost cut then you know you have a problem. If you're on a really tight budget, like most UD kids, you can save a few bucks that way.
</TD></TR></TABLE>hehe yeah
but im sure i can shell out like $40 for a mechanical boost gauge. thanks for the clearifacation j. davis and everyone else.what boost gauges does everyone have expeirence with that has acurate readings? ive seen almost a 50/50 split with autometer so whats up?
and where to buy for the cheapest prices?ahh, since i cant PM yet. this is to j.davis...
ive heard the stock low oil light reads a little to late, meaning once it's on your probably already screwed? any truth to that?
12-12-2004, 08:59 PM
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Re: absolutely necessary guages for boost? (fafsa)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fafsa »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
hehe yeah but im sure i can shell out like $40 for a mechanical boost gauge. thanks for the clearifacation j. davis and everyone else.
what boost gauges does everyone have expeirence with that has acurate readings? ive seen almost a 50/50 split with autometer so whats up?
ahh, since i cant PM yet. this is to j.davis...
ive heard the stock low oil light reads a little to late, meaning once it's on your probably already screwed? any truth to that?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes, its more like the "your engine is fucked" light.
hehe yeah
but im sure i can shell out like $40 for a mechanical boost gauge. thanks for the clearifacation j. davis and everyone else.what boost gauges does everyone have expeirence with that has acurate readings? ive seen almost a 50/50 split with autometer so whats up?
ahh, since i cant PM yet. this is to j.davis...
ive heard the stock low oil light reads a little to late, meaning once it's on your probably already screwed? any truth to that?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes, its more like the "your engine is fucked" light.
12-12-2004, 09:06 PM
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Re: absolutely necessary guages for boost? (Mag00n)
I'm in the same boat, and also going UberData.
So just boost gauge, and I will be fine. I want to get it eventually dyno tuned, but don't you also have to street tune, for WOT, and loads, is it? So I will probably run on a basemap for a bit, then get it street tuned, and eventually get it dyno tuned. So pretty much a WBO2 is necessary unless your street tuner has one which is likely right? Am I on the right track. Sorry.
Also which is the best, or better boost gauges out there?
I don't want a gauge pillar or cluster cutout for the gauges. I'm trying to be stealthy as possible with the gauges, but then again have enough for assurance. So boost, and EGT or WBO2 is all that is necessary, if so that's great.
Thanks
So just boost gauge, and I will be fine. I want to get it eventually dyno tuned, but don't you also have to street tune, for WOT, and loads, is it? So I will probably run on a basemap for a bit, then get it street tuned, and eventually get it dyno tuned. So pretty much a WBO2 is necessary unless your street tuner has one which is likely right? Am I on the right track. Sorry.
Also which is the best, or better boost gauges out there?
I don't want a gauge pillar or cluster cutout for the gauges. I'm trying to be stealthy as possible with the gauges, but then again have enough for assurance. So boost, and EGT or WBO2 is all that is necessary, if so that's great.
Thanks
12-12-2004, 09:11 PM
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Re: absolutely necessary guages for boost? (fafsa)
All the popular mechanical gauges are service grade units, and not precision lab instrumentation. That being said... the mis/un calibrated Autometers can be adjusted to work just fine. People are too lazy.
$5 un-illuminated Grainger gauge is what I ran for a while, -30-0 vac 0-30 psig. John Deere Spec instrumentation rules
I've yet to see an oil pressure gauge off to the side catch your eye like a red light positioned front + center. Never had an oil pump go on me, so I've never worried about it that much.
$5 un-illuminated Grainger gauge is what I ran for a while, -30-0 vac 0-30 psig. John Deere Spec instrumentation rules
I've yet to see an oil pressure gauge off to the side catch your eye like a red light positioned front + center. Never had an oil pump go on me, so I've never worried about it that much.
12-12-2004, 11:44 PM
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Re: absolutely necessary guages for boost? (J. Davis)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by J. Davis »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wideband + boost gauge. Oil pressure is optional, albeit recommended, since you have the warning light (read the double meaning in that one).
"EGT is useless unless you want to tap all four cylinders. Junk information."</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thats all i used was a wideband and boost guage. Id like to get an oil pressure gauge just incase but you sorta have an oil pressure warning light already, the stock oil light, if you see that come on turn off the car asap. Its hard to read a gauge going down the track - the light is actually easier to notice.
liam
"EGT is useless unless you want to tap all four cylinders. Junk information."</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thats all i used was a wideband and boost guage. Id like to get an oil pressure gauge just incase but you sorta have an oil pressure warning light already, the stock oil light, if you see that come on turn off the car asap. Its hard to read a gauge going down the track - the light is actually easier to notice.
liam
12-13-2004, 12:10 AM
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Re: absolutely necessary guages for boost? (liam821)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by liam821 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Thats all i used was a wideband and boost guage. Id like to get an oil pressure gauge just incase but you sorta have an oil pressure warning light already, the stock oil light, if you see that come on turn off the car asap. Its hard to read a gauge going down the track - the light is actually easier to notice.
liam</TD></TR></TABLE>
true, does anyone know how low the oil has to go for the light to turn on?
Thats all i used was a wideband and boost guage. Id like to get an oil pressure gauge just incase but you sorta have an oil pressure warning light already, the stock oil light, if you see that come on turn off the car asap. Its hard to read a gauge going down the track - the light is actually easier to notice.
liam</TD></TR></TABLE>
true, does anyone know how low the oil has to go for the light to turn on?
12-13-2004, 05:44 AM
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Re: absolutely necessary guages for boost? (slowredhybrid)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slowredhybrid »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
true, does anyone know how low the oil has to go for the light to turn on?</TD></TR></TABLE>
and does anyone have good expeirences with summitracing? prices are a lil cheaper than jeg's but im wondering how long they take for shipping?
true, does anyone know how low the oil has to go for the light to turn on?</TD></TR></TABLE>
and does anyone have good expeirences with summitracing? prices are a lil cheaper than jeg's but im wondering how long they take for shipping?