A .46 .48 turbo on Ls
10-04-2005, 07:37 AM
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A .46 .48 turbo on Ls
is this turbo okay for a stock Ls b18b engine i am getting it tuned tom just wondering what to expect like Hp and torque #
10-04-2005, 07:42 AM
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turbo is a SScrap but its brand new so i am going to get it a try for a week or 2 looking for 10psi tuning with a VAFC so thats about as far as i can go
10-04-2005, 07:50 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wantboost »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
also dont expect that turbo to last long</TD></TR></TABLE>
You speaking from experience on that^^^? I have had 2 of them and both are still alive and well (still runnig on cars). I'm not sticking up for them or their quality but, I have no complaints about any of their products.
Spoonz,
That turbo will not make much power but, it will be fun to drive. Your power will be there as soon as you touch the gas. Even if you only make 180whp it'll be on tap almost all the time. We all had to start somewhere. Good luck.
Phil
also dont expect that turbo to last long</TD></TR></TABLE>
You speaking from experience on that^^^? I have had 2 of them and both are still alive and well (still runnig on cars). I'm not sticking up for them or their quality but, I have no complaints about any of their products.
Spoonz,
That turbo will not make much power but, it will be fun to drive. Your power will be there as soon as you touch the gas. Even if you only make 180whp it'll be on tap almost all the time. We all had to start somewhere. Good luck.
Phil
10-04-2005, 07:53 AM
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okay so on 10 pounds of boost i am looking at 180 hp thats like 40 more than what i have now man thats not much so that turbo isnt going to make over 200 hp i am looking for 220-240
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10-04-2005, 07:57 AM
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oaky here is my whole setup
turbo .46.48
inline pro manifold t3t4 flang
tail wastegate
HKS ssqv blowoff valve
boost controller
TODA liteweight flywheel
orthdox pulleys
MSD plug wires
AEM FPR
4 puck act clutch
VAFC
turbonotics drag piping and intercooler
turbo .46.48
inline pro manifold t3t4 flang
tail wastegate
HKS ssqv blowoff valve
boost controller
TODA liteweight flywheel
orthdox pulleys
MSD plug wires
AEM FPR
4 puck act clutch
VAFC
turbonotics drag piping and intercooler
10-04-2005, 08:01 AM
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Re: (spoonzdelsol)
A) ditch the pullies if it has a crank pulley
B) you need injectors and a fuel pump
C)ditch the VAFC.. why do you have a vafc anyways. its not a vtec motor
B) you need injectors and a fuel pump
C)ditch the VAFC.. why do you have a vafc anyways. its not a vtec motor
10-04-2005, 08:06 AM
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sorry i have a set of 450 dsm and a 255 walbro fuel pump and why ditch the pulley and the reason i have a VAFC is because i got it for like 100 and could find a safc
10-04-2005, 08:14 AM
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yeah it is . but you think my setup will make at least 200 Hp ? i have a t4 Garret turbo can i take the turbo housing of it and put it on the t3 exhaust housing and have a t3t4 turbo?
10-04-2005, 08:24 AM
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Re: (spoonzdelsol)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spoonzdelsol »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oaky here is my whole setup
turbo .46.48
inline pro manifold t3t4 flang
tail wastegate
HKS ssqv blowoff valve
boost controller
TODA liteweight flywheel
orthdox pulleys
MSD plug wires
AEM FPR
4 puck act clutch
VAFC
turbonotics drag piping and intercooler</TD></TR></TABLE>
As stated above, no need for the Vafc, and i dont think your gonna like that 4 puck clutch too much...what brand? Anyway, dont just buy something because you think its a "good deal" when in reality you have no use for it. That $100 could have been spent more productively. Same thing with that SS turbo. If your looking at getting a t3/t4 (assuming garrett or other reputable company) then why would you put this one on? Do it right the first time, and save your money.
turbo .46.48
inline pro manifold t3t4 flang
tail wastegate
HKS ssqv blowoff valve
boost controller
TODA liteweight flywheel
orthdox pulleys
MSD plug wires
AEM FPR
4 puck act clutch
VAFC
turbonotics drag piping and intercooler</TD></TR></TABLE>
As stated above, no need for the Vafc, and i dont think your gonna like that 4 puck clutch too much...what brand? Anyway, dont just buy something because you think its a "good deal" when in reality you have no use for it. That $100 could have been spent more productively. Same thing with that SS turbo. If your looking at getting a t3/t4 (assuming garrett or other reputable company) then why would you put this one on? Do it right the first time, and save your money.
10-04-2005, 08:24 AM
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Re: (spoonzdelsol)
People have problems with the aluminum crank pullies because they arn't dampened. Meaning they can destroy oil pumps from excessive vibration.
Here is some proof, they are talking about the CTR pulley, which is also undampened.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1354739
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spoonzdelsol »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">okay so on 10 pounds of boost i am looking at 180 hp thats like 40 more than what i have now man thats not much so that turbo isnt going to make over 200 hp i am looking for 220-240 </TD></TR></TABLE>
We are talking about wheel horsepower here, you car makes 140 @ the crank when it first rolled off the production line. Typically LS motors make ~110-120 whp depending on their condition. So if you lay down 190-200whp, thats more than a 60 hp increase, not too bad.
Here is some proof, they are talking about the CTR pulley, which is also undampened.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1354739
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spoonzdelsol »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">okay so on 10 pounds of boost i am looking at 180 hp thats like 40 more than what i have now man thats not much so that turbo isnt going to make over 200 hp i am looking for 220-240 </TD></TR></TABLE>
We are talking about wheel horsepower here, you car makes 140 @ the crank when it first rolled off the production line. Typically LS motors make ~110-120 whp depending on their condition. So if you lay down 190-200whp, thats more than a 60 hp increase, not too bad.
10-04-2005, 08:27 AM
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the clutch is a ACT and the only diffrence in a VAFC and a SAFC is you can controll vtec and the turbo issue it came with my setup i bought from a guy but i am planning on getting something bigger in the future i am just starting first turbo car
10-04-2005, 08:33 AM
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Re: (spoonzdelsol)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spoonzdelsol »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the clutch is a ACT and the only diffrence in a VAFC and a SAFC is you can controll vtec and the turbo issue it came with my setup i bought from a guy but i am planning on getting something bigger in the future i am just starting first turbo car </TD></TR></TABLE>
Do you plan on doing your tuning with the Vafc? I wouldnt really recommend it, but oh well. I see what your saying about the turbo. IMHO, i would just keep saving up and do it once. Unless upgrading to a different turbo is gonna take years, then yea boost it now. It would save yourself time and money. Im not trying to tell you what to do bro, im just telling you what I would do in that situation.
EDIT: Ive actually heard Crank pulley's destroy oil pumps and can cause harm to the crank itself if not balanced correctly.
Do you plan on doing your tuning with the Vafc? I wouldnt really recommend it, but oh well. I see what your saying about the turbo. IMHO, i would just keep saving up and do it once. Unless upgrading to a different turbo is gonna take years, then yea boost it now. It would save yourself time and money. Im not trying to tell you what to do bro, im just telling you what I would do in that situation.
EDIT: Ive actually heard Crank pulley's destroy oil pumps and can cause harm to the crank itself if not balanced correctly.
10-04-2005, 08:36 AM
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The only thing is i am on a budget right now but the next things i have on my to buy list is hondata,bigger turbo but i am just starting so hopefully my setup will make me happy for the time being and not F-up all the time
10-04-2005, 08:45 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spoonzdelsol »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The only thing is i am on a budget right now but the next things i have on my to buy list is hondata,bigger turbo but i am just starting so hopefully my setup will make me happy for the time being and not F-up all the time </TD></TR></TABLE>
Ok, to help you out a little bit, ill make some suggestions to you so you can save some money in the long run. Since you are on a budget now, its all about saving money later, right? Look at getting some RC 550cc Injectors instead of DSM 450's. With DSM's, you need a resistor box, and different clips/harness (more money). Also, i would run the 550's just for the extra reassurance of having enough fuel and not maxing out the injetors, robbing your car of fuel. Second, I would throw out the idea of getting Hondata, and run Uberdata. With Hondata, you need to get your ecu chipped for it, and then buy the actual S200 or whatever the new one is (not familiar with them) With Uber, all you need is to get your ecu chipped w/ it, and your set. (saves a lot of money right there)
Ok, to help you out a little bit, ill make some suggestions to you so you can save some money in the long run. Since you are on a budget now, its all about saving money later, right? Look at getting some RC 550cc Injectors instead of DSM 450's. With DSM's, you need a resistor box, and different clips/harness (more money). Also, i would run the 550's just for the extra reassurance of having enough fuel and not maxing out the injetors, robbing your car of fuel. Second, I would throw out the idea of getting Hondata, and run Uberdata. With Hondata, you need to get your ecu chipped for it, and then buy the actual S200 or whatever the new one is (not familiar with them) With Uber, all you need is to get your ecu chipped w/ it, and your set. (saves a lot of money right there)
10-04-2005, 09:29 AM
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yeah, that turbo will do 200 easy. its not as small as people think
i daily drove my old engine (stock d16a6) with that turbo..6 psi made 185 whp, and i was running 8-9 psi when i dissasembled the engine.
i'm looking for upper 200's with it. with a high flowing kit its entirely possible.
i daily drove my old engine (stock d16a6) with that turbo..6 psi made 185 whp, and i was running 8-9 psi when i dissasembled the engine.
i'm looking for upper 200's with it. with a high flowing kit its entirely possible.
10-04-2005, 09:39 AM
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Re: (spoonzdelsol)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spoonzdelsol »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah thats on my next to do's but if i can get 200 hp i will be happy thats pretty good in a delsol as long as i have the torque </TD></TR></TABLE>
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10-04-2005, 09:50 AM
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to get the right tuning stuff and injectors thats what i am saying and thanks for the info learn something not what you would say turbo smart yet
10-04-2005, 09:52 AM
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Re: (redzcstandardhatch)
so you have the same turbo on a single cam how did it pull and what were your numbers at 10 psi ? thats what i am planning to be running i know yours is a sohc but would like to know how it pulled