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Old May 8, 2012 | 06:14 PM
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My buddy has a set of rc440s
Wi they big big enough
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Old May 8, 2012 | 06:24 PM
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Oh yeah. Even ur stock injectors will push that just not reccomended
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Old May 8, 2012 | 06:31 PM
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Ok I was reading somewhere and they said 250 was max they must have ment 350
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Old May 8, 2012 | 06:34 PM
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Default Re: Are 440cc big enough for my setup

For stock injectors? I'm no expert but 440s probbly
Max around 350-400 range but you shouldn't go past 80% dc incase

Put that sir at 300hp with a ram mani 8-9lbs should see that easy
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Old May 8, 2012 | 06:38 PM
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Default Re: Are 440cc big enough for my setup

It's on stock motor so don't wanna go to 300
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Old May 8, 2012 | 06:39 PM
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Default Re: Are 440cc big enough for my setup

Originally Posted by SiRCiviC94
Oh yeah. Even ur stock injectors will push that just not reccomended
Umm. No. not even close. you'll freeze them open. Not only is it not recommended, but not possible without serious failure.
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Old May 8, 2012 | 07:37 PM
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Make sure your fuel injectors are sized appropriately for the power that you are trying to make. Below is a quick general guideline for injector to power rating given a base fuel pressure between 40-50psi:

240cc/min (stock): 170-180whp
310cc/min: 200-240whp
370cc/min: 250-275whp
440cc/min: 300-325whp
550cc/min:350-375whp
650cc/min: 400-425whp
750cc/min: 450-475whp
1000cc/min: 600whp
1200cc/min: 700whp
1600cc/min: 850whp

Thanks to Evans Tuning for this info.


youll be bored with your power after the 2nd week (if you dont blow it up by then) so buying larger then needed injectors is recommended.
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Old May 8, 2012 | 07:53 PM
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Default Re: Are 440cc big enough for my setup

Ok I'm going to go with the rc 440s then run 260 hp
Is that safe for a stock motor 260hp I'm talking to the wheels hp
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Old May 8, 2012 | 07:55 PM
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Default Re: Are 440cc big enough for my setup

your tuner will know whats safe and what numbers youll get according to your set up.

If it were me, id go for 550's


Edit: B16's have seen 300hp with your set up.. so youll be fine
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Old May 8, 2012 | 07:58 PM
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Default Re: Are 440cc big enough for my setup

Well my friend owes me money so he prolly not gunna pay me do might as well just take his 440s for now
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Old May 9, 2012 | 12:09 AM
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Default Re: Are 440cc big enough for my setup

I could always sell them for bigger ones later on
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Old May 9, 2012 | 01:40 AM
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Default Re: Are 440cc big enough for my setup

you should be okay just dont go past 80 percent duty cycle on the injectors.
my buddy has a gsr block with a b16 head and a turbonetics 60-1 using 450cc injectors at 9lbs and his duty cycle was just a little bit over 80. didnt have any problems but i heard anymore then that and you will be over working the injectors. Make sure you get the injectors clean and tested first though.Over here theres a dr.injector and he tested/cleaned all my injectors.
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Old May 9, 2012 | 03:02 AM
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I had fuel to hit the 100 pills it seemed lol on all stock fuel system. Lmfao freeze them open moar fuel!

B series motors are raw as **** 300 at the wheel I wouldn't break a sweat. It's not like we're holding that power for 10 mins. More like 12.5 seconds
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Old May 9, 2012 | 03:26 AM
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Default Re: Are 440cc big enough for my setup

Originally Posted by SiRCiviC94
I had fuel to hit the 100 pills it seemed lol on all stock fuel system. Lmfao freeze them open moar fuel!

B series motors are raw as **** 300 at the wheel I wouldn't break a sweat. It's not like we're holding that power for 10 mins. More like 12.5 seconds
Sometimes i get the impression you're on 100 ecstasy pills.
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Old May 9, 2012 | 03:38 AM
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Default Re: Are 440cc big enough for my setup

It was basemaped for 100 so ran in the 10.9 afr range spraying 65. Works like magic lol but any more on stock fuel set up ull hve to be a lil crazy
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Old May 9, 2012 | 03:49 AM
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I think i need to be tripping to understand that. Sorry..
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Old May 9, 2012 | 05:30 AM
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Default Re: Are 440cc big enough for my setup

What fuel, that well make a difference. Ethanol requires about 25-30% more fuel than 93oct
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Old May 9, 2012 | 05:50 AM
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Default Re: Are 440cc big enough for my setup

93oct
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Old May 9, 2012 | 06:36 AM
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Default Re: Are 440cc big enough for my setup

Originally Posted by rich7777
I think i need to be tripping to understand that. Sorry..
Smokesomeherbacideandunderstandityo
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Old May 9, 2012 | 12:56 PM
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Default Re: Are 440cc big enough for my setup

I would run at least 450cc injectors and they will be close to the limit. 550 or 750cc injectors is much better and safer. The stock injectors will not cut it for any boost IMO.
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Old May 9, 2012 | 01:31 PM
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Default Re: Are 440cc big enough for my setup

I'm going with the rc440 I'm getting them for 100 so why not I'm only trying to get around 260
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Old May 11, 2012 | 06:29 PM
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Default Re: Are 440cc big enough for my setup

Originally Posted by EsotericImage
Make sure your fuel injectors are sized appropriately for the power that you are trying to make. Below is a quick general guideline for injector to power rating given a base fuel pressure between 40-50psi:

240cc/min (stock): 170-180whp
310cc/min: 200-240whp
370cc/min: 250-275whp
440cc/min: 300-325whp
550cc/min:350-375whp
650cc/min: 400-425whp
750cc/min: 450-475whp
1000cc/min: 600whp
1200cc/min: 700whp
1600cc/min: 850whp

Thanks to Evans Tuning for this info.


youll be bored with your power after the 2nd week (if you dont blow it up by then) so buying larger then needed injectors is recommended.
this thread has some lulz

first there is this wonderful post with a very easy to follow chart

then more questions follow asking the same thing the chart explains
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