Hey Guys! Just picked up a B16A block today and I am super excited to start build something cool! the following list came from my research from other peoples builds. So feel free to give me suggestions, advice or recommendation's since this is my first build. keep in mind that my goal is 400whp in a 97 civic hatch. my turbo knowledge isn't very good but I want a fast spooling turbo and the car will rarely see over 4k RPMs since its a daily driver. Thanks!

Block
B16A1:
JE 9.0:1 Pistons:
Crower Connecting Rods:
ARP Head Studs:
Darton Sleeves:
ACL Main Bearing:
Stock Crankshaft:
Hasport Mounts:

Head
B16A2:
Golden Eagle Head Gasket:
Crower Valves:
Crower Springs/Retainers:
Crower Stage 2 Turbo Cams w/ Keepers and Guides:
Eldelbrock Victor X Intake Manifold:
OEM Intake Manifold Gasket:

Turbo
GO-AUTOWORKS Tuner Kit:
Turbonetics T3/T4 50 Trim .63a/r
Tial Q 50mm BOV
GO-AUTOWORKS Stainless Log Manifold
GO-AUTOWORKS SS 2.5" Downpipe
GO-AUTOWORKS Dumptube
Tial 38mm MVS Wastegate w/ 14psi Spring Combination
GO-AUTOWORKS Pro Oiling Kit
GO-AUTOWORKS Race Charge Pipe Kit
GO-AUTOWORKS R FMIC Bar & Plate Intercooler

Electronics
Blitz Boost Controller:
HKS Turbo Timer:
Oil, Boost, EGT, A/F Gauges:
Mounting Bezels for Gauges:

Fuel/Ignition
Honda s300:
RC1000 Injectors:
AEM Fuel Rail:
AEM Fuel Pressure Regulator:
Walbro 255 Fuel Pump
MSD Digital 6A:
MSD Blaster SS Coil:
MSD Distributor Cap:

Drivetrain
B16A2 Transmission:
Action Stage 3 Clutch:
Action Lightened Flywheel:
Hasport Axles:
Quaife LSD:

 

Actually.... Everything looks pretty damn good. Good size turbo, (though for 400whp, plan to run some race fuel for this), and expect full boost pressure for most regions of the powerband are well under 4200rpms or so with good tuning..

The only issue I see is with those RC Rochester/ Lucas 1000cc injectors. That will cause some problems in your daily driving needs as they are a low impedence, slower pintle injector, and don't idle all that well, which will hurt your cause. Its not the same as the Bosch-Style Series. So if you're staying low impedence, get something way smaller.. like in the 750cc RC range.. Or even better, don't get the RCs at all.

Pictures would be nice , though..

 

Thanks man haven't started the build yet got everything priced out to be about $11.8k so gotta get that money but I wanna do it right the first time and the reasoning behind the rc1000s was because they were the same price as the 750s and if I wanted more power then I already have them

 

Just a few opinions, but look over the B16 dyno thread and see what others have done with similar builds.

 

That doesn't mean they'll work the same, however. Unlike the other builds that you're seeing using 1000cc injectors, the ones that work properly like that at that size are NOT RC injectors.. As I said, they are a Rochester/Lucas design, that doesn't work well at low duty cycles in large sizes. They cause idle issues, tuners want to tear their hair out, and you just run inefficiently. Years ago, it was all that the Honda community had. Now there are much better alternatives to utilize. Your logic is sound, but the application of that logic is what's going to cause you some issues.

 

cool cool I will definitely check out other options of injectors thanks for you advice

 

Natural Aspirations, Thanks for advice I can take all I can

 

As Natural Aspirations said i would ditch the msd/axles/victor X.
With the money saved i would get a miniramhorn instead of the log and some
ID 750injectors.Altho turbonetics turbos are good i would get the garrett t3/t4 50 trim or even some of the turbos shodan offers cause 50 trim might be difficult to hit
400whp with "daily driven fuel".
Nice plans btw.Good luck.

 

I'll second that...as well as the ID injectors

Since Natural Aspirations freed up some money, maybe consider a bit better turbo while you're at it. Another $3-400 would bump you up into something much nicer...GT28r or see what TheShodan has

 

go autoworks offers a few differant choices of turbos.

 

you'd really need a small (gt28xx) to mid sized (gt30xx) gt-r or gt-x series turbo to get the kind of low end response you want, especially if you rarely turn the motor past 4-5k, which you would have to do to make 400hp.

the 50 trim t3/t04e unit is a great street turbo but for the kind of driving you say you do, would be considered "laggy". plus as previously stated that turbo would take lots of boost and race gas to make 400hp, where as the newer turbo technology can do 400 on 93 octane with little issue if you have a good tuner

if you're going to run e85 I can say with a certainty that you'll make 400 no problem but you won't like how the 50 trim behaves on the street to make that power. especially on a b16

 

I disagree. The 50 trim is about 47lbs/min and would work well with a B16. But I think he means he wants full boost pressure by 4000rpms-5000rpms, not a MAX rpm of 4-5Krpm.. (That's what I've interpreted so far), in which case, he'd be ok. Even with a tubular log, which is so underestimated on this forum. (Different from a cast one, mind you)..

But, I digress, so we'll hopefully whether or not he's actually happy with it.

 

dont need sleeves, just a great tuner

dont need those bc cams. gsr cams will do.

oem ignition, ngk bkr7es

id1000cc

smaller plenum intake manifold

3'' downpipe

 

So ID750 injectors will be perfect for daily driving on pump gas (92 octane) then?

 

and maybe a Garret t3/t4 57 trim .63a/r will work better?

 

Get the ID1000's gives you more room to grow later.

I have had both and didn't notice any of the problems affiliated with the older larger RC or precision injectors.

 

My I.D. 1000's seriously idle better than stock.

 

We made 400 whp on my car with a Garrett 57 trim, and that's about all we could get out of it. I was also using a cast manifold and a high flow cat for emissions though. The 50 trim would definitely not hit 400 whp, but I do live a mile above sea level.

 

that cast manifold and high cat surely didnt help

 

Yup that's why I said that's all that we could get out of it. I didn't see if he was using a full exhaust for emissions or not.

 

I may have a set of Crower stage 2 turbo cams for you

 

http://www.evans-tuning.com/dynos/2010/11/civic-si-custom-kit-b16a-395whp260tq-s300/

 

For the turbo I have Turbonetics T3/T4 .48 hotside .60 coldside ceramic bearings and it hit the 400 mark spool in the bottom is pretty good at least above2000

 

if you do the cams also that will be a powerloss as you are shifting the powerband but it will help with the quick spool

 

if it were me id sleeve espescially if you are going to bore it or at least get a block brace for high rpms