for the 18G non-believers
05-12-2005, 07:05 PM
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for the 18G non-believers
stock IC piping from the greddy kit
hondata
880cc injectors
2.5" DP
3" exhaust
GE sleeved 81mm block
ITR head, IM, cams, TB
tuning done on 17psi and pump gas
sorry it is so big
thanks to Jay at hybridynamics for the build and tune
hondata
880cc injectors
2.5" DP
3" exhaust
GE sleeved 81mm block
ITR head, IM, cams, TB
tuning done on 17psi and pump gas
sorry it is so big
thanks to Jay at hybridynamics for the build and tune
05-12-2005, 07:42 PM
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the 18g is good for low and midrange... topend still sucks ***** IMO, but good numbers non-the less. the 18g must be an uber fun street turbo
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Do you still have the greddy elbow? I'm curerntlky building an LS block to go under my b16 head. I just blew my b16 the other week 
I'll be running forged internals, but stock sleeves. 81.5. I'm looking to max out the 2.5 bar map sensor, and expecting numbers close to what your making. What kind of motor is ithis in? Thanks! 
I'll be running forged internals, but stock sleeves. 81.5. I'm looking to max out the 2.5 bar map sensor, and expecting numbers close to what your making. What kind of motor is ithis in? Thanks!
05-12-2005, 08:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by adSPEED »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lol what are you trying to prove??? that 18g makes low numbers?? 309 is hella low for 17 psi... its not the turbo bro, its your kit... </TD></TR></TABLE>
I bet your torque and HP are about 100-150 different too huh?
the car is daily driven and is basically perfect for stop and go traffic and daily driver. and the turbo doesn't have much left in it, but it will do more on race gas.
I still use the greddy cast elbow and wastegate. didn't even port it. it makes 1.2 bar very early (around torque peak) and then falls off to 1 bar by redline. I dunno if it is because of head flow over flowing the exhaust manin and piping or if it is the turbo or wastegate. either way this was a heat soaked dyno run so I am sure it is making a little more when it is on the street.
either way the curves are awesome and the turbo achieved right what I wanted it to.
my motor is a B18C sleeved 81mm block, itr head, cams, TB, IM and valve train
I bet your torque and HP are about 100-150 different too huh?
the car is daily driven and is basically perfect for stop and go traffic and daily driver. and the turbo doesn't have much left in it, but it will do more on race gas.
I still use the greddy cast elbow and wastegate. didn't even port it. it makes 1.2 bar very early (around torque peak) and then falls off to 1 bar by redline. I dunno if it is because of head flow over flowing the exhaust manin and piping or if it is the turbo or wastegate. either way this was a heat soaked dyno run so I am sure it is making a little more when it is on the street.
either way the curves are awesome and the turbo achieved right what I wanted it to.
my motor is a B18C sleeved 81mm block, itr head, cams, TB, IM and valve train
05-12-2005, 08:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by adSPEED »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lol what are you trying to prove??? that 18g makes low numbers?? 309 is hella low for 17 psi... its not the turbo bro, its your kit... </TD></TR></TABLE>
I bet your torque and HP are about 100-150 different too huh? lol I trapped 3mph slower than you on street tires with my little 18G and you are saying I am not proving anything with a full interior ITR with AC and PS
the car is daily driven and is basically perfect for stop and go traffic and daily driver. and the turbo doesn't have much left in it, but it will do more on race gas.
I still use the greddy cast elbow and wastegate. didn't even port it. it makes 1.2 bar very early (around torque peak) and then falls off to 1 bar by redline. I dunno if it is because of head flow over flowing the exhaust manin and piping or if it is the turbo or wastegate. either way this was a heat soaked dyno run so I am sure it is making a little more when it is on the street.
either way the curves are awesome and the turbo achieved right what I wanted it to.
my motor is a B18C sleeved 81mm block, itr head, cams, TB, IM and valve train
I bet your torque and HP are about 100-150 different too huh? lol I trapped 3mph slower than you on street tires with my little 18G and you are saying I am not proving anything with a full interior ITR with AC and PS
the car is daily driven and is basically perfect for stop and go traffic and daily driver. and the turbo doesn't have much left in it, but it will do more on race gas.
I still use the greddy cast elbow and wastegate. didn't even port it. it makes 1.2 bar very early (around torque peak) and then falls off to 1 bar by redline. I dunno if it is because of head flow over flowing the exhaust manin and piping or if it is the turbo or wastegate. either way this was a heat soaked dyno run so I am sure it is making a little more when it is on the street.
either way the curves are awesome and the turbo achieved right what I wanted it to.
my motor is a B18C sleeved 81mm block, itr head, cams, TB, IM and valve train
05-12-2005, 08:44 PM
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thats awesome but 113 trap is **** on street tires... i trap 130+ on street tires for ur info...its all good buyd, dont get mad because i said that once again nothing impressive for another good ole 18g... oh and i trapped 117 on my old setup with 100 less whp.. good job
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by adSPEED »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats awesome but 113 trap is **** on street tires... i trap 130+ on street tires for ur info...its all good buyd, dont get mad because i said that once again nothing impressive for another good ole 18g... oh and i trapped 117 on my old setup with 100 less whp.. good job </TD></TR></TABLE>
whatever dude....If you wanna be a dick why the **** did you even look at this thread?
I wish I had a civic VX that had to have slicks to run 11's
</TD></TR></TABLE>whatever dude....If you wanna be a dick why the **** did you even look at this thread?
I wish I had a civic VX that had to have slicks to run 11's
05-12-2005, 08:55 PM
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Re: for the 18G non-believers (knockout)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by knockout »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">damn, I was hoping to get 325-350 whp with an 18g at 15psi with an intercooler and water injection. 
i thought it was betta</TD></TR></TABLE>
water injection you might get more because it will let you give it more timing. I think we stopped at 18 degrees timing on my tune. it was definatly heat soaked too(36 pulls) so I think 325 is well within reason with air actually going over the IC instead of a small fan.
i thought it was betta</TD></TR></TABLE>water injection you might get more because it will let you give it more timing. I think we stopped at 18 degrees timing on my tune. it was definatly heat soaked too(36 pulls) so I think 325 is well within reason with air actually going over the IC instead of a small fan.
05-12-2005, 09:11 PM
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should change the title to something less threatening...300hp out of a 18g really isnt nothing new...it's good though 
05-12-2005, 09:12 PM
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Re: for the 18G non-believers (Jockobo)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jockobo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">should change the title to something less threatening...300hp out of a 18g really isnt nothing new...it's good though </TD></TR></TABLE>
I haven't seen many greddy 18G's over 300whp
</TD></TR></TABLE>I haven't seen many greddy 18G's over 300whp
05-12-2005, 09:15 PM
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Re: for the 18G non-believers (BoostR41)
if you had the elbow an wg flapper ported, plus teh turbine and compressor housings extrude honed, im pretty sure theres more power to be had
05-12-2005, 09:28 PM
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Re: for the 18G non-believers (wantboost)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BoostR41 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
whatever dude....If you wanna be a dick why the **** did you even look at this thread?
I wish I had a civic VX that had to have slicks to run 11's </TD></TR></TABLE>
good one... i was not being a dick, i was saying that its nothing impressive... thats alll.. your topic makes it seem like you made 500whp on a 18g...
whatever dude....If you wanna be a dick why the **** did you even look at this thread?
I wish I had a civic VX that had to have slicks to run 11's </TD></TR></TABLE>
good one... i was not being a dick, i was saying that its nothing impressive... thats alll.. your topic makes it seem like you made 500whp on a 18g...
05-12-2005, 09:30 PM
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Re: for the 18G non-believers (wantboost)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wantboost »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you had the elbow an wg flapper ported, plus teh turbine and compressor housings extrude honed, im pretty sure theres more power to be had</TD></TR></TABLE>
I was thinking about that stuff over winter. for now the torque curve is awesome and like I said heat soaking I am sure chewed up some of the power to be had. It definatly has more power than last year. with 225/50/15 BFG's it is right on the edge of traction. I am goin to try to get to the track a week from today to see how it does cause power means nothing, times mean everything
I was thinking about that stuff over winter. for now the torque curve is awesome and like I said heat soaking I am sure chewed up some of the power to be had. It definatly has more power than last year. with 225/50/15 BFG's it is right on the edge of traction. I am goin to try to get to the track a week from today to see how it does cause power means nothing, times mean everything
05-12-2005, 09:32 PM
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Re: for the 18G non-believers (BoostR41)
almost makes me wanna get an 18g, lol. but a b20/vtec would bend that turbo over and rape it like a farmer does sheep
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Re: for the 18G non-believers (BoostR41)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BoostR41 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">water injection you might get more because it will let you give it more timing. I think we stopped at 18 degrees timing on my tune. it was definatly heat soaked too(36 pulls) so I think 325 is well within reason with air actually going over the IC instead of a small fan.</TD></TR></TABLE>
sounds good, hopefully i can make 350ehp with an N-Tercooler.
nice numbers for a lil daily beater
sounds good, hopefully i can make 350ehp with an N-Tercooler.
nice numbers for a lil daily beater
05-12-2005, 09:40 PM
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Re: for the 18G non-believers (adSPEED)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by adSPEED »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
good one... i was not being a dick, i was saying that its nothing impressive... thats alll.. your topic makes it seem like you made 500whp on a 18g... </TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah because that is possible
good one... i was not being a dick, i was saying that its nothing impressive... thats alll.. your topic makes it seem like you made 500whp on a 18g...
</TD></TR></TABLE>yeah because that is possible
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Re: for the 18G non-believers (knockout)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by knockout »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
sounds good, hopefully i can make 350ehp with an N-Tercooler.
nice numbers for a lil daily beater</TD></TR></TABLE>
not a beater but a driver. it is parked in the winter(if you lived here you would understand that road crews suck) but from the end of march to November I drive the car everyday and usually put 10k miles on it a year so it is perfect for what I need
sounds good, hopefully i can make 350ehp with an N-Tercooler.
nice numbers for a lil daily beater</TD></TR></TABLE>
not a beater but a driver. it is parked in the winter(if you lived here you would understand that road crews suck) but from the end of march to November I drive the car everyday and usually put 10k miles on it a year so it is perfect for what I need
05-12-2005, 09:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wantboost »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">almost makes me wanna get an 18g, lol. but a b20/vtec would bend that turbo over and rape it like a farmer does sheep</TD></TR></TABLE>
actually it might do well on that motor. most B20/Vtecs are being pushed over 8k anyway so if you want a nice fat torque curve for road courses and stuff this is a great turbo.
actually it might do well on that motor. most B20/Vtecs are being pushed over 8k anyway so if you want a nice fat torque curve for road courses and stuff this is a great turbo.
05-12-2005, 09:47 PM
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Re: for the 18G non-believers (BoostR41)
yea, i was thinking about picking up a mani and 18g for those times i wanna auto-x or something.
i was thinking about having a really big t4 for track use (big numbers)
some sort of t3 for dd and everything inbetween
and somthing like an 18g for auto-x or when i wanna have fun driving the car around town
i was thinking about having a really big t4 for track use (big numbers)
some sort of t3 for dd and everything inbetween
and somthing like an 18g for auto-x or when i wanna have fun driving the car around town
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wantboost »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yea, i was thinking about picking up a mani and 18g for those times i wanna auto-x or something.
i was thinking about having a really big t4 for track use (big numbers)
some sort of t3 for dd and everything inbetween
and somthing like an 18g for auto-x or when i wanna have fun driving the car around town</TD></TR></TABLE>
it really does make boost fast it is a fun car...you don't have to be at 8k to feel it. by 3500 or so it is pulling pretty nice
full boost right where vtec crosses is nice too
i was thinking about having a really big t4 for track use (big numbers)
some sort of t3 for dd and everything inbetween
and somthing like an 18g for auto-x or when i wanna have fun driving the car around town</TD></TR></TABLE>
it really does make boost fast it is a fun car...you don't have to be at 8k to feel it. by 3500 or so it is pulling pretty nice
full boost right where vtec crosses is nice too
05-13-2005, 12:48 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BoostR41 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I was thinking about that stuff over winter. for now the torque curve is awesome and like I said heat soaking I am sure chewed up some of the power to be had. It definatly has more power than last year. with 225/50/15 BFG's it is right on the edge of traction. I am goin to try to get to the track a week from today to see how it does cause power means nothing, times mean everything</TD></TR></TABLE>
should get some slicks and get some good times with the 18g...then that'll be something to brag about
I was thinking about that stuff over winter. for now the torque curve is awesome and like I said heat soaking I am sure chewed up some of the power to be had. It definatly has more power than last year. with 225/50/15 BFG's it is right on the edge of traction. I am goin to try to get to the track a week from today to see how it does cause power means nothing, times mean everything</TD></TR></TABLE>
should get some slicks and get some good times with the 18g...then that'll be something to brag about
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Re: for the 18G non-believers (BoostR41)
Good job sam I'm very impressed with the numbers the car produced just because its not 400hp+ noone wants to give you props but I will. The car runs really well went 12.9 116 last year on a crap fuel management setup, its only gonna do better now with hondata and a good tune by Jay.
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not bad i had the greddy set up and it was nice but 17psi for 300 is alot i pc together another kit after selling my greddy and on 14psi im making 320. but hey atleast you got to 300+