$40 DIY Dyno, can it work?
http://www.charm.net/~mchaney/homedy...edyno.htm#inst
I saw this a few years back when i was messing with my Probe but never had any disposiable income to try it out. Theres a message board with people that are using it but I wanted to see if anyone here had heard of this before (couldnt find anything in the searches).
I saw this a few years back when i was messing with my Probe but never had any disposiable income to try it out. Theres a message board with people that are using it but I wanted to see if anyone here had heard of this before (couldnt find anything in the searches).
http://www.charm.net/~mchaney/homedy...edyno.htm#inst
I saw this a few years back when i was messing with my Probe but never had any disposiable income to try it out. Theres a message board with people that are using it but I wanted to see if anyone here had heard of this before (couldnt find anything in the searches).
I saw this a few years back when i was messing with my Probe but never had any disposiable income to try it out. Theres a message board with people that are using it but I wanted to see if anyone here had heard of this before (couldnt find anything in the searches).
Neat idea, but if ultimately we were looking for an increase in speed over a shorter amount of time, then perhaps using a Freq-to-Voltage converter on the VSS line and then plotting that against time might also work, not so much as a dyno....but it would show increases/decreases with modifications you make.
Just a thought.
Just a thought.
I think it would work fine. You need to have all your specs typed in correctly. The results are only as accurate as the specs you type in. The roaddyno along with wbo2 could be a nice affordable way to tune.
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They work, except any wheelspin will completely void your results, and it doesn't take into account aerodynamic drag so you'll get VERY different numbers depending on what gear you're in. I personally think accelerometer based things like the Gtech and the Race Technologies units are a better bet for most purposes. But either way they're OK for doing before/after comparisons with your car, just don't go trying to pass them off as real dyno numbers.
They work, except any wheelspin will completely void your results, and it doesn't take into account aerodynamic drag so you'll get VERY different numbers depending on what gear you're in. I personally think accelerometer based things like the Gtech and the Race Technologies units are a better bet for most purposes. But either way they're OK for doing before/after comparisons with your car, just don't go trying to pass them off as real dyno numbers.
Drag coefficient: Enter the vehicle's drag coefficient. This is needed to accurately measure acceleration (and hence power), especially if you need to run the test in a higher gear due to wheelspin. If you don't know your drag coefficient, just enter 0.32. That should be close enough unless you plan to break the sound barrier!
Yes, it works great. I bought the assembled kit for $150 and it works great.
It does take aerodynamic drag into account, despite what someone above said. Compare these 2 graphs..... First is a graph from my road dyno. Second is from a dynojet done a few days later with no changes made. The lower of the 2 curves is first, the higher one is after an hour of tuning. That's pretty &*#$%&* accurate in my book! Well worth the money and very accurate, I advise you buy one if you have a use for it. The higher torque peak onthe road dyno graph is due to wheel spin on the street. No spin on the dynojet....


[Modified by biskit, 9:42 PM 11/18/2002]
It does take aerodynamic drag into account, despite what someone above said. Compare these 2 graphs..... First is a graph from my road dyno. Second is from a dynojet done a few days later with no changes made. The lower of the 2 curves is first, the higher one is after an hour of tuning. That's pretty &*#$%&* accurate in my book! Well worth the money and very accurate, I advise you buy one if you have a use for it. The higher torque peak onthe road dyno graph is due to wheel spin on the street. No spin on the dynojet....


[Modified by biskit, 9:42 PM 11/18/2002]
Hrrms its 1.4 horsepower off not counting the wheelspin error at low rpm... good enough for me. I've seen other people have similarly low error margins. At this price level there are NO other options. You can build this yourself with parts you already have. And there are free versions of similar software available for download from other websites.
But yeah, if you got the bucks I guess the realdyno is a better choice, but this product is not intended to compete with the realdealdyno. It's for people who would never venture out to a dyno for lack of fundage. People like... like me.
But yeah, if you got the bucks I guess the realdyno is a better choice, but this product is not intended to compete with the realdealdyno. It's for people who would never venture out to a dyno for lack of fundage. People like... like me.
notice the point where they make the max power arent the same....
and TQ, he said its b/c of wheel spin
max HP @ about 5700rpm on first dyno and just about same on second one..
so if you're just looking at WHP thats pretty darn close
[Modified by crzsomang, 5:54 AM 11/19/2002]
[Modified by crzsomang, 5:54 AM 11/19/2002]
I found a Comparison to a dynojet, good enough for me...
http://www.zx2.org/homedynovsdynojet.htm
Thursday is payday, I'll order it then and post my results
http://www.zx2.org/homedynovsdynojet.htm
Thursday is payday, I'll order it then and post my results
hmm...look at the increments in the RPM on the gragh...they are very inconsistant increments...probably done intentionally to make it appear that the two dynos give similar results.....I'd want to see a more standard and consistant dyno plot before I'd invest in something like that...
[Modified by MiraiZ, 7:18 PM 11/19/2002]
[Modified by MiraiZ, 7:18 PM 11/19/2002]
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http://www.charm.net/~mchaney/homedy...edyno.htm#inst
I saw this a few years back when i was messing with my Probe but never had any disposiable income to try it out. Theres a message board with people that are using it but I wanted to see if anyone here had heard of this before (couldnt find anything in the searches).
I saw this a few years back when i was messing with my Probe but never had any disposiable income to try it out. Theres a message board with people that are using it but I wanted to see if anyone here had heard of this before (couldnt find anything in the searches).
greg
"wah, I don't have it so it sucks"
Typical whiner comments.
They were made 2 weeks apart, different weather, different gas, different state. And chassis dynos aren't exactly super-duper accurate either..... Let me know when you want to race for money.
Typical whiner comments.
They were made 2 weeks apart, different weather, different gas, different state. And chassis dynos aren't exactly super-duper accurate either..... Let me know when you want to race for money.
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If they are both on the same scale it doesn't matter what the scale is. If you were only looking at the table you could manipulate the data, but you can't make the graph lie the way it is presented.
Someone mentioned hooking it up to the VSS...I don't think that would work very well, because it would go apeshit whenever you had wheel spin.
::EDIT:: Another thought...I was assuming this was like the GtechPro, but it's not...this also does not take into account wheel spin, nor changes in ignition timing (though that would be a localized effect, only influencing the measurement immediately around that point)...
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If they are both on the same scale it doesn't matter what the scale is. If you were only looking at the table you could manipulate the data, but you can't make the graph lie the way it is presented.
Someone mentioned hooking it up to the VSS...I don't think that would work very well, because it would go apeshit whenever you had wheel spin.
::EDIT:: Another thought...I was assuming this was like the GtechPro, but it's not...this also does not take into account wheel spin, nor changes in ignition timing (though that would be a localized effect, only influencing the measurement immediately around that point)...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by biskit »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes, it works great. I bought the assembled kit for $150 and it works great.
It does take aerodynamic drag into account, despite what someone above said. Compare these 2 graphs..... First is a graph from my road dyno. Second is from a dynojet done a few days later with no changes made. The lower of the 2 curves is first, the higher one is after an hour of tuning. That's pretty &*#$%&* accurate in my book! Well worth the money and very accurate, I advise you buy one if you have a use for it. The higher torque peak onthe road dyno graph is due to wheel spin on the street. No spin on the dynojet....


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yea, that would have been way more accurate if you dyno'd the "right" way
hehe..lay into the throttle gently but firmly
mike
It does take aerodynamic drag into account, despite what someone above said. Compare these 2 graphs..... First is a graph from my road dyno. Second is from a dynojet done a few days later with no changes made. The lower of the 2 curves is first, the higher one is after an hour of tuning. That's pretty &*#$%&* accurate in my book! Well worth the money and very accurate, I advise you buy one if you have a use for it. The higher torque peak onthe road dyno graph is due to wheel spin on the street. No spin on the dynojet....


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yea, that would have been way more accurate if you dyno'd the "right" way
hehe..lay into the throttle gently but firmlymike


