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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 01:38 PM
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Default P28 Worth it?

Would I gain any advantages of buying a p28 and chipping it over chipping my stock p13? What's the difference? And would tuning a chipped ecu make a noticeable difference?
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 01:40 PM
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Default Re: P28 Worth it?

slightly higher redline
a bit more agressive fuel map.

I THINK! i could be wrong.

i wouldnt buy it. you wont see much of a difference
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 10psiLsEf2
slightly higher redline
a bit more agressive fuel map.

I THINK! i could be wrong.

i wouldnt buy it. you wont see much of a difference
so you'd just chip the stock ECU?
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 01:46 PM
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sure. i wouldnt even do that! but! thats me i had 2 ecus chipped before

a. car ran like shittt
b. waste of money

Unless you wana chip a ecu to read fatter injectors i wouldnt bother
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 05:29 PM
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Default Re: P28 Worth it?

It really depends on a lot of factors.

The major factor is: What modifications does the vehicle have?

All chipped p28s are not equal. The thing that makes a chipped ecu perform is the program that is on it.
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 07:11 PM
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Default Re: P28 Worth it?

yea sorry i didnt ask the mods. and engine
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 07:15 PM
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Default Re: P28 Worth it?

And if I'm not mistaken the P13 really isn't one of the best hardware platforms for chipping. There isn't a hole lot of software/code support for them is there?
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 08:31 PM
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Default Re: P28 Worth it?

Originally Posted by mtber
It really depends on a lot of factors.

The major factor is: What modifications does the vehicle have?

All chipped p28s are not equal. The thing that makes a chipped ecu perform is the program that is on it.
Yeah, I was looking at phearable's ecu's too.
I have a stock jdm h22 with headers/exhaust/intake

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And if I'm not mistaken the P13 really isn't one of the best hardware platforms for chipping. There isn't a hole lot of software/code support for them is there?
I actually found out that P13's aren't supported by tuning software that's why I'd have to go p28
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 08:35 PM
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or if you add 50 dollars to it.
get a p72. it will be able to read the secondary runners if your still running them or you want to run them.
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 08:37 PM
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Default Re: P28 Worth it?

You could also modify the P28 to operate the IABs (secondary runners) if you are keeping them. If you are unable to get a decently priced P28. Then a chipped and modified P06 (P28 equivalent) will do the trick. Just have to add VTEC and IAB components when they chip it.

Really depends on your engine setup what ECU will work best for you. if you don't have any big engine modifications your stock P13 will probably suffice for now
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 09:55 PM
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Default Re: P28 Worth it?

then yes its worth getting a p28 and getting it chipped.
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Old Dec 21, 2011 | 10:29 AM
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Tuned....not just chipped.
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Old Dec 21, 2011 | 12:18 PM
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Default Re: P28 Worth it?

Originally Posted by q16racer
Tuned....not just chipped.
Yeah obviously lol
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Old Dec 21, 2011 | 01:15 PM
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You would be surprised how many people think they are the same thing.
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Old Dec 23, 2011 | 12:18 PM
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LOL. basically the same because your burning your dyno tuning maps onto a chip and putting it in your ecu. the difference is that tuning puts your setup to its most potential. Besides how do you put IAB components into a p28.? does anyone here carry it?
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Old Dec 23, 2011 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by dk=gsr
how do you put IAB components into a p28.? does anyone here carry it?
You solder them.....Just like adding VTEC to a P06.

Carry it.... no. I leave all of my ECUs stock until I get an order. Then I customize each ECU to the buyers specs. I do have a couple P28's and the IAB components in stock... you interested?
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Old Dec 24, 2011 | 08:09 AM
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Chipped p72 with basemap $175
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Old Dec 24, 2011 | 08:55 AM
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Wow that's good pricing for a chipped P72 right there...

Becoming harder to find a stock P72 for under $150-200 these days.
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Old Dec 24, 2011 | 03:57 PM
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Yeah interested in the IAB components. Solder my own ecus too. Pm'd sent.
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Old Dec 25, 2011 | 05:23 AM
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Default Re: P28 Worth it?

The IAB components are fairly cheap. You should be able to get them at your local electronics shop or online at digikey.com.

PM sent
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Old Dec 25, 2011 | 03:33 PM
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Default Re: P28 Worth it?

Originally Posted by 10psiLsEf2
sure. i wouldnt even do that! but! thats me i had 2 ecus chipped before

a. car ran like shittt
b. waste of money

Unless you wana chip a ecu to read fatter injectors i wouldnt bother
crappy tuner....

i can make a stock car faster just by chipping the computer and spending about 2 hours street tuning it with my wideband doesnt have to be modified to make it faster
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Old Dec 25, 2011 | 08:53 PM
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Default Re: P28 Worth it?

Yeah chipping an ECU and running it without a tune is a good example of what not to do. The power/reliability is more in the quality of the tune, not just the chipping. Basemaps are just that, a base on which to start tuning from. They should not be relied upon for running your engine.
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Old Dec 27, 2011 | 07:05 PM
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I have tested and working H22 basemaps for a P28 I can send you to get you started. Or if you want a custom one I can program the IAB to your A/C clutch output. It's not free though.
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Old Dec 29, 2011 | 06:22 AM
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Default Re: P28 Worth it?

i have a chipped p28 eith my h23a setup it runs great i tried it with a p91 n didnt run better so i say its worth getting a p28
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