LOL. Do you even know who invented drifting? A bunch of kids that lived in the mountains of japan. So dont say that 16 year old arent experienced, the younger you have better reactions when your not drunk or high.

 

Dude, don't even try. Let them live with the misconception the FWDs can't drift. They will fight to the death defending what they heard someone said who heard someone said instead of opening up their minds and actually learning how.

 

Fwd can slide but not drift. Although i guess it depends on what your definition of drifting is. Im not a big fan of drifting though, so i couldnt care either way. Gonna be a lot of wrecked 240's soon.

 

http://video.google.com/videop...fting

funniest thing ever.!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheCheeseWedge &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">f uck who ever says you cant drift front wheel drive!!! i do it all the time in my 91 integra no ebrake btw and i started and learned how to do it in my 88 crx. its harder to do with the integra than the crx though, alot more oversteer in the crx seeing as the passive-rear suspension on the 88 models helped alot. and for those that dont beleive me to make it easy to see for yourself go to a mountain road or really tight corners like hair-pin style and start driving the car as hard and as fast as you can and your back end will start to break loose and you will start drifting thats if you know how to drive. btw i wouldnt make threads like this on such a bandwagon website unless your wanting to get flamed. just use the search button and research roadracing and actual driving techniques or hell go try it for yourself and put some thought into the physics behind driving and what happens in corner and how your car reacts
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Thats called understeer, been in that EXACT same scenario many times in my old Accord (stock suspension). I love driving on them roads though, even with a stock suspension.

 

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Thats called understeer, been in that EXACT same scenario many times in my old Accord (stock suspension). I love driving on them roads though, even with a stock suspension.</TD></TR></TABLE>

no, its called an oversteer condition. understeer is where you push the front end. how is an oversteer condition fwd any different than an oversteer condition rwd both conditions cause your backend to come out and car to get sideways. rwd you burn tires up fwd you dont. so how can you say it isnt possible to drift a fwd when you have unknowingly done it yourself. unless you really did understeer and not turn and find that fun. drifting originated in the mountains of japan because street racers that were grip racing started pushing theyre cars harder and faster through the turns causing oversteer conditions making the back end come out through corners-sound familiar?

 

he's gana be running 3 honda civics...........with sp00n engines!!!!!

 

So what are you saying, you're gonna go around checking out everyone's garage?

 

this forum has nothing to do with fast and the furious. i have never watched any of the fast and the furious and i plan on never watching fast and the furious. my friend said you cant drift with a FWD and i say you can and for all you guys out there that said you cant i just found this.

http://www.kjapan.co.kr/mpeg/civic.wmv

 

TheCheeseWedge

dude your a ******* homo. i guess somebody has been watching fast and the furious 3 and decided he is the new DK cause he can go around an island in the snow. ******* noobs

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by shadyGs-R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">this forum has nothing to do with fast and the furious. i have never watched any of the fast and the furious and i plan on never watching fast and the furious. my friend said you cant drift with a FWD and i say you can and for all you guys out there that said you cant i just found this.

http://www.kjapan.co.kr/mpeg/civic.wmv</TD></TR></TABLE>

Pretty sick driver in that video, that's some real talent.. Cool Vid.

The comment's related to "F&F" were not in direct relation to the movie it's self

moreso the idea that; people will believe 'Drifiting' will be able to be performed by

any driver behind the wheel, this idea assumingly being instigated by the conception

of watching the latest F&F movie. Which is I'm assuming a total misconception of

what actually goes on In the Japanese Drift league's.

 

Buahahahah, ***-sliding is fun, isn't it? You're going to wreck into someone on one of these mountain roads one day... "drifting" your FWD Honda... and I hope you consequently cripple yourself and realize how dumb you really are. This is *not* about physics - no matter what physics language you speak, FWD cars will never power the rear wheels and you will not "drift", you will ***-slide and look like an idiot.



Close your APC catalog and listen up: You don't have power to the rear wheels. You cannot drift. It's not about opening my ******* mind to new experiences - you're an idiot.



16 year olds aren't experienced. What do you want to hear... that 16 year olds are the best drivers eVarrr?

Yes, it is about F&F. You've seen it. Don't lie... You called me opening night and asked me come with you.

Regardless, every idiot in this thread HAS seen F&F3... maybe more than once.

 

Man, what happened to the Integra forum?

 

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Regardless, every idiot in this thread HAS seen F&F3... maybe more than once.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I havn't

 

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I agree.

Seriously people, get off your high horse about "FWD's CAN'T DRIFT!! RICER!! F&F!!" Jesus. I'm not saying a front drive will or ever could compete in the same class as those cars found on the drift circuits today, but that doesn't mean they can't perform the task to a lesser degree.

There are various ways to "drift," "slide," WHATEVER a front wheel drive car for extended periods of time, but it does take some skill. That video above shows the Japanese drivers favoring the ebrake, JUST as they do with RWD cars. You can also slide by using only your brakes and gas pedals, and is very common in gravel rally driving over stickier tarmac. Those methods are called trail braking or left foot braking. They are not easy to master (and I by no means claim to have), so don't expect to go out and try it not having a clue what you're doing.

It's like arguing that no other form of racing should exist when formula one, the pinnacle of motor sports, is around.

Again, I'm not trying to make a point that fwd cars are nearly as cool or fun to watch as rwd cars drifting, but it drives me nuts when close minded, ignorant and un skilled "forum" racers and post ****** in here only reply with stupid and baseless blurbs.

 

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Buahahahah, ***-sliding is fun, isn't it? You're going to wreck into someone on one of these mountain roads one day... "drifting" your FWD Honda... and I hope you consequently cripple yourself and realize how dumb you really are. This is *not* about physics - no matter what physics language you speak, FWD cars will never power the rear wheels and you will not "drift", you will ***-slide and look like an idiot.



Close your APC catalog and listen up: You don't have power to the rear wheels. You cannot drift. It's not about opening my ******* mind to new experiences - you're an idiot.




Regardless, every idiot in this thread HAS seen F&F3... maybe more than once.</TD></TR></TABLE>


To you it may be purple muffins, but to the rest of the universe it most definitely is about physics. Just because you don't understand what EXACTLY happens to your car when you press on the gas, brakes, clutch, change gears, move the steering wheel, hit a bump, have 10 gallons of fuel in your tank instead of 4, doesn't mean others aren't familiar with the REACTIONS of their actions. Simple lesson: What happens when you slam on your brakes? Weight transfers to the front of your vehicle and down onto your front tires, reducing the weight in the rear of the vehicle, thus reducing the downward force on your rear tires and leading to a reduced coefficient of friction (lower traction). There are also things like altered toe, camber and caster at various points of wheel travel that should be considered, but it sounds like keeping track of that is too over your head.

Try going to a rally one time and then when front drives are tearing through the corner you're at completely sideways, find then in the pits and call them an idiot.

God, you ******* dumb ****. Get off your *** and go try this **** before you post. On second thought, don't try it. You'll suck so bad and come running back thinking you were right all along.

And I haven't seen F&F3 either, bitch.

 

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To you it may be purple muffins, but to the rest of the universe it most definitely is about physics. Just because you don't understand what EXACTLY happens to your car when you press on the gas, brakes, clutch, change gears, move the steering wheel, hit a bump, have 10 gallons of fuel in your tank instead of 4, doesn't mean others aren't familiar with the REACTIONS of their actions. Simple lesson: What happens when you slam on your brakes? Weight transfers to the front of your vehicle and down onto your front tires, reducing the weight in the rear of the vehicle, thus reducing the downward force on your rear tires and leading to a reduced coefficient of friction (lower traction). There are also things like altered toe, camber and caster at various points of wheel travel that should be considered, but it sounds like keeping track of that is too over your head.

Try going to a rally one time and then when front drives are tearing through the corner you're at completely sideways, find then in the pits and call them an idiot.

God, you ******* dumb ****. Get off your *** and go try this **** before you post. On second thought, don't try it. You'll suck so bad and come running back thinking you were right all along.

And I haven't seen F&F3 either, bitch.
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dude this guy just owned you, what do you have to say for yourself?

and on a sdie note, don't waste your money on tokyo ****

 

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Whole lot easier to break traction when you're not on pavement though.


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lol, you think this is Something new?

 

psychotic_z your a ******* idiot stfu noob

 

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oh for christ's sake, put the initial D video away. Drifting was NOT invented in Japan by kids delivering tofu. People have been drifting old muscle cars for decades, but called it "power sliding" instead of drifting. Japan just latched onto the concept and made it a spectator sport.

You can drift a FWD car (as shown by the video posted), but the chassis dynamics are different, and it normally doesn't work or look nearly as well as on a rwd car.

 

16 year olds aren't experienced. What do you want to hear... that 16 year olds are the best drivers eVarrr?


LOL. STFU Bitch. I didnt say 16 are the best but most arent the worst either.

 

Just to help out

It's entirely possible with FWD, without using the E-brake. You can get oversteer by lifting off the gas (lift-off oversteer) which shifts the weight of the car off the back wheels (accelerating shifts weight toward the back of the car). In a sweeping turn, if the car is setup right (super thick rear sway) you can easily drift using the lift off technique, it happens to me in autocrosses, usually when i don't want it to, haha.

Maybe this will help some noobs or just confuse people more, (I know my post count is low but I have lurked for about 2years while driving non hondas, yes i miss my FC3S)

I have had both FWD and RWD cars and you can definately feel it when you are drifting. Picture a right hand 90 degree turn. Say you are in the right lane turning onto the right hand lane of a 4 lane street. With understeer you will plow out into the center lane at the end of your turn. With oversteer the car will feel like its rotating and if you can control it you will pivot the car on its front wheels and end up in the right hand lane. If you can't you end up spinning or side ways across the two lanes. It's easy to confuse understeer with a drift if you have never successfully drifted.




Modified by vworcivic at 12:59 PM 6/19/2006

 

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To you it may be purple muffins, but to the rest of the universe it most definitely is about physics. Just because you don't understand what EXACTLY happens to your car when you press on the gas, brakes, clutch, change gears, move the steering wheel, hit a bump, have 10 gallons of fuel in your tank instead of 4, doesn't mean others aren't familiar with the REACTIONS of their actions. Simple lesson: What happens when you slam on your brakes? Weight transfers to the front of your vehicle and down onto your front tires, reducing the weight in the rear of the vehicle, thus reducing the downward force on your rear tires and leading to a reduced coefficient of friction (lower traction). There are also things like altered toe, camber and caster at various points of wheel travel that should be considered, but it sounds like keeping track of that is too over your head.

Try going to a rally one time and then when front drives are tearing through the corner you're at completely sideways, find then in the pits and call them an idiot.

God, you ******* dumb ****. Get off your *** and go try this **** before you post. On second thought, don't try it. You'll suck so bad and come running back thinking you were right all along.

And I haven't seen F&F3 either, bitch.
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Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahaha

You crack me up. You're dead on with the physics... but you still don't have power through the rear wheels. All you're doing is oversteering. Can you do consecutive slides in a FWD car? E-brake or not, you'll end up losing speed and eventually stopping. GG.

Rally's a whole different ballgame. Different surfaces. Different rules. Different goals. It's a race, not a show. Hahaha, call me a n00b all you want, kids. I'll be the one laughing at you tools when you "drift" by in your CRX's and Integras, lose control, and slam into oncoming traffic. I'll get to say, "I told you so" right before you're arrested/carried away in an ambulance.

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Whole lot easier to break traction when you're not on pavement though.


lol, you think this is Something new?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I remember the Integra forum being... I don't know... brighter? Less stupid questions were asked, maybe. I don't know. This was the forum I stayed in for the first year or two before I graduated into GDD. Reminiscing in the old forum is a blast, what can I say?

Since then... **** son, the Class of '06 took over.

 

This thread is funny.

You guys won't see professional drifters using fwd cars because they have sponsors and don't have to rely on their daily driver to look kewl.

 

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your such a Donkey Kong....