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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 09:22 PM
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At our track here in atlanta, if u run 10.99 or faster you have to have a "harmonic balancer". What is a harmonic balancer?
BTW--i'm not running 10's im just curious as to what this thing is.
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 10:08 PM
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basically it soaks up the heavy vibrations in V8 produced by the crankshaft and flywheel assembly.


i dont think honda's need em
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 10:18 PM
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Isnt that thing you play around the camp fire? JK

bacically shortyz got it but Honda do need them.
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 10:43 PM
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I know a lot of supra guys run them but i dont think they are major necessity on a honda.
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 11:33 PM
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Default Re: What is a harmonic balancer? (blykins)

Honda's have Harmonic Balancers, stock...

I dont think you can go 10s ona Solid Pulley, am I wrong?

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Old Aug 9, 2003 | 12:13 AM
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what will happen if you don't have a harmonic balancer and you are putting out a lot of power? lose power? bad for motor?
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Old Aug 9, 2003 | 06:57 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Suprdave &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Honda's have Harmonic Balancers, stock...Suprdave</TD></TR></TABLE>
where?, what does it look like? All I see when I pull off the pulley is the bolt, pulley made entirely of metal, washer, and timingbelt keeper... where is the balancer?
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Old Aug 9, 2003 | 10:48 AM
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i thought it was rubber or someshit built into the crank pulley
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Old Aug 9, 2003 | 10:54 AM
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hondas do have a harmonic balancer, I attached a pic, for those who need to see what it looks like.
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Old Aug 9, 2003 | 03:57 PM
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what's up with people using the LS damper???
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Old Aug 9, 2003 | 05:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by advanracing62 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
where?, what does it look like? All I see when I pull off the pulley is the bolt, pulley made entirely of metal, washer, and timingbelt keeper... where is the balancer?</TD></TR></TABLE>

the harmonic balancer is the crank pulley. if you dont have one it puts a lot of stress on the crankshaft and could even break.
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Old Aug 9, 2003 | 05:41 PM
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Default Re: What is a harmonic balancer? (chevyalltheway)

i think you would have more problems that that if you didnt have a crank pulley
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Old Aug 9, 2003 | 06:12 PM
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i drove with mine off before and didnt even know till the battery died 2 hours later... i was wondering why my car seemed like it was revving ****** quick... sat on my axle and the axle spinning wore a crescent moon right into the side and ruined it.. also tore my boot
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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 08:42 AM
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Default Re: What is a harmonic balancer? (drunknbass)

ok, so if the crank pulley is the balancer, then what difference would it make if you had a N1 pulley or one from Unorthadox, as long as you balanced it to the motor? I know on the V6/8 motors it's some sorot of big weight that helps the crankshaft from vibrating all over... But on our cars I don't see such a part.
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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 02:34 PM
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Default Re: What is a harmonic balancer? (advanracing62)

if you dont use one, you will get awful vibrations and probably crack the oil pump gear

This is why teams like jotech can still use a stock oil pump, they use a damped pulley to get rid of vibrations, which is what makes the oil pump fail.
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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 10:31 PM
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Default Re: What is a harmonic balancer? (FFgeoff)

I think the only engines that have any type of balancer in them are the H22 and up motors. If I'm wrong please correct me.. but I'd also like to know where exactly the HB is on the B series... if it is indeed present.
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 05:53 AM
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Default Re: What is a harmonic balancer? (advanracing62)

it IS the crank pulley
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 08:14 AM
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Default Re: What is a harmonic balancer? (FFgeoff)

So the crank pulley and the HB are the same thing, in that case why would it make any difference if one used the N1 pulley, or better yet shaved the stock one? As long as it is balanced I don't see where it would effect the motor's longevitiy... I'm just trying to understand what in the hell is going on with the whole "You can't use the ultra light pulley" statements.
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 09:41 AM
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Default Re: What is a harmonic balancer? (advanracing62)

i ran a DH-racing pulley for over a year. never a problem.

BISI- runs the same DH-racing pulley on his 10.1 all motor race car. swears by it.

you figure it out. its all in your head...
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 09:55 AM
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the heavier it is the better it does to lessen the vibrations caused by the motor... the lighter it is, the less it does its job, no matter how balanced it is...
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