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Old Mar 19, 2005 | 12:42 PM
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i have a 91 crx si with b16 a few bolt ons.thats it..im goin to the track next weekend..my friend has a nos kit.i dunno much bout nos.he told me its a 100 shot,direct port dry nos kit.i dunno what brand...n e way.he wants me to use it at the track.but b4 i do n e thing.will the b16 handle nos? is it safe to use,if so.ill do it.if not.4get it..thanks guys
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Old Mar 19, 2005 | 06:05 PM
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"your friend" isnt so much of a "friend" if he's telling to spray a 100 shot on stk b16


dont use it
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Old Mar 19, 2005 | 06:14 PM
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yeah, 100 shot dry... blow your motor for sure. i run 120 wet direct port with a progressive controller, but sometimes it still blows the piston...


(my ls vtec, ctr piston blow with nos)
i wouldnt do more than 50 shot dry, even that is sketchy, it burns up the rings real fast
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Old Mar 19, 2005 | 07:52 PM
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i wouldn't do it, especially a dry shot! if your gonna spray i would only do like a 50 wet shot.
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Old Mar 19, 2005 | 11:06 PM
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i would do it, but not very much, a direct port system is alot safer then using a single fogger dry system, and i think there dp systems are actually a wet system, not dry, not totally sure on it, but 100 shot would be fine on a stock b16 for like three trips down the track and then dont go crazy on it....

now a 100 shot on that ls vtec with ctr pistons is a risky motor to run, that high of compression on cast pistons then to add nos.... uggg thats a melt down waiting to happen.
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Old Mar 20, 2005 | 10:24 AM
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if you're worried about running that big of a shot, change the jets out.
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Old Mar 20, 2005 | 02:38 PM
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i've never seen a dry direct port. jet it down to a 50-75 shot. What clutch do you have? if its stock or even a stage 1 you may fry it if your not careful.
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Old Mar 20, 2005 | 04:33 PM
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yep, I had a bad case of loser denial myself. You just have to know your car's limitations and accept it or suffer the consequences.
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Old Mar 20, 2005 | 06:32 PM
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well thanks guys...im not gonna do it..ive never thought about runnin nos but i got curious when my buddy brought this up and thought maybe ill try it but ima go with u guys on this and run it without nos...thanks again
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 03:07 AM
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Nitrousoxide get's dangerous when it comes to detonation!!!
running no2 with pct or itr pistons is even more dangerous, those pistons are cast and will not stand much of detonation, especially not with no2. in a ls/vtec with pct's (c/r somewhere in 12's?? i believe) running no2 is begging for failure.

in a b16a with standard compression and PR3 pistons (not cast) a 75 shot will be oke, just retard your timing a few degrees, call the company for details.

btw direct port dry kit ??
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 08:23 AM
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What the hell is dry direct port kit?!

Sam
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 09:33 AM
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pr3 piston is a cast piston
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 10:23 AM
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pr3 cast?really?

thnx for the correction, you should be fine tough, how much octane are u runnin
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 10:33 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wolve &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nitrousoxide get's dangerous when it comes to detonation!!!
running no2 with pct or itr pistons is even more dangerous, those pistons are cast and will not stand much of detonation, especially not with no2. in a ls/vtec with pct's (c/r somewhere in 12's?? i believe) running no2 is begging for failure.

in a b16a with standard compression and PR3 pistons (not cast) a 75 shot will be oke, just retard your timing a few degrees, call the company for details.

btw direct port dry kit ??</TD></TR></TABLE>

actually, my lsvtec has the cast ctr pistons in it, and i run 120 wet direct port (sig) and it holds, the reason i blew was due to loss of fuel pressure (i have rc310, but my in line fuel pump died) my c/r is 12.6-1 (milled head) usually it holds pretty well for drag, in the 11's but i think thats the limit for those pistons. as long as i have enuf fuel, never seems to be a problem. the motor does get hot sometimes, but i think its the sleves

i run 108 octane usually
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 02:39 PM
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damn thats a lot of juice on a cast piston with tha much compression
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 12:35 AM
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that's exactly what i said, nitrous is'nt bad, detonation while running nitrous is BAD!!! as long you have enough feul and sufficient timing and octane it's oke.

nothing beats a good system
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 06:44 AM
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I would use it...NOS=Fast/fun! with a b16 i wouldnt go 100 shts...mayby 50 or possibly 75 @ the max! Make sure you get the timing/spark plugs adjusted for Nos is you use it! Ive had many, many passes on DRY NOS without any problems...like they said above FUEL is Vital when it comes to NOS!
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 04:16 PM
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single fogger dry kit: 50-60 safe
single fogger wet kit: 50-85 safe
direct port wet kit: 50-125 safe

nitrous is safe if used correctly...all of the above is safe if used with the proper precautions...colder plugs, used only at WOT, no shitty gas (87 have to say it because some cheap *** do it and suffer for it), retard timing before getting aggressive with tuning, not spraying for super long periods of time...like every gear on the freeway going for gold...don't do it!


And above all else have some one install it that knows what there doing...nine times out of ten what blows up the car is driver error, improper installation, or spraying beyond the above numbers and not taking precautions!
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Old Mar 29, 2005 | 02:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EVIL TYPE R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">single fogger dry kit: 50-60 safe
single fogger wet kit: 50-85 safe
direct port wet kit: 50-125 safe

nitrous is safe if used correctly...all of the above is safe if used with the proper precautions...colder plugs, used only at WOT, no shitty gas (87 have to say it because some cheap *** do it and suffer for it), retard timing before getting aggressive with tuning, not spraying for super long periods of time...like every gear on the freeway going for gold...don't do it!


And above all else have some one install it that knows what there doing...nine times out of ten what blows up the car is driver error, improper installation, or spraying beyond the above numbers and not taking precautions! </TD></TR></TABLE>

yup, even on stock internals
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Old Mar 29, 2005 | 05:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 12SEC CIV &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">"your friend" isnt so much of a "friend" if he's telling to spray a 100 shot on stk b16


dont use it</TD></TR></TABLE>

i got a 100 shot wet fogger on a stock B16...

seems to do the job.....

wouldnt try it on a daily driver though
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Old Mar 29, 2005 | 06:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gold EF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah, 100 shot dry... blow your motor for sure. i run 120 wet direct port with a progressive controller, but sometimes it still blows the piston...


(my ls vtec, ctr piston blow with nos)
i wouldnt do more than 50 shot dry, even that is sketchy, it burns up the rings real fast </TD></TR></TABLE>

Nice, 120 shot on a stock high compression motor
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 07:58 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bspec18 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nice, 120 shot on a stock high compression motor</TD></TR></TABLE>
so... after my lsvtec ran lean and blew, i put my b16 back in, normal b16a pistons. put the juice to it again 120wet, and it held like a mother.

then i forgot that i had the stock plugs in there, so it melted one of the plugs : P

but it holds good
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