The question is, is this class going to get smacked with something to slow it down?


I am not suggesting that is should or shouldent. Just planning next years build, and seeing if changes are soon to come?

 

True Street is a great class and peoples #1 concern should be weather or not there will be a place to race in 2011.

The attendance in the NSCRA series in the Northeast was pathetic.

I would recommend everyone who is interested in True Street to get together and commit to racing in the 2011 season, and try to convince the NSCRA to come back.
And also try to get the OGS events to have True Street for a class at their events.

 

I'm in the same boat, I want to start a new build for next year. The main question here, before we start talking about class rules is, will NSCRA return to the Northeast next year?

Side note, I know its going to start an argument, I think we should consider a 61mm class with very strict "street legal" rules...

 

i dont see it getting slowed down that would be just stupid.the only change i would like to see is the 3 piece front ends allowed.only way you will slow this class down is if you ban precision turbos lol

 

Something to keep in mind, most of the amazing times that were just put up in true street were done at the best track of the year, I don't think you'll see times quite that quick consistently throughout the year.

 

And I really like the 62mm option for the class. It allows people to run their car lighter, which will help with the drivetrain staying together, which is always a good thing.

 

the last thing we need is another class to fill up.a billet 61mm car can still go 9s all day

 

Running deep into the 9's and possibly having an 8 in the car, while on a 67mm, thats flirting with being competitive in Outlaw/Wild Street. A 61/62mm is still going to dip 9's will a little trial and error, but I think it would be a 9.9-11.9 range of times as opposed to 8.9-9.9 field.

 

Not at 2500 lbs on PUMP, I'm talking about "real" street cars, not racecars you can in theory drive on the street.

 

yea right jason hunt is going 9.40s on a 62mm and im sure he gonna go faster with his mph.the 62mm can make almost as much as a 67 but has a bigger powerband.i went 9.6 not even on kill still learning the car.people just have to find ways to get faster its evolution of the class thats all its exciting why mess with it?

 

Your best bet is going to be the Index classes. It's a great option that allows pro-tree racing, but you don't have to worry about the other cars being faster.

 

I like the True Street class just the way it is, I'm not saying it should be changed, I'm saying there should be another option to get some more people out of the stands and on the track. I personally made it to 3 of 4 NSCRA events and WCF, ran true street at 2 of them and index at the other 2 so I'm not a bench racer making this argument. I just think its worth a shot to expand the line up and try to get more street cars in the sport. I can't imagine that anyone right now is going 9's on pump gas with a 62.

 

I like the thoughts of a 62mm class.

 

I ran index at 2 events this year and 2 last year, I, along with a few other people that ran index, had to dial our cars back to race index because we don't want to sand bag. We want to run our cars to their full potential. I spent all day yesterday pushing my 60-1 trying to break into the tens on pump, it was the first time in a while I got to really push my car instead of working on a dial in.

 

PS I didn't mean to thread jack fmfkid

 

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The 62mm cars would still be too fast. hunts going faster than most that have a 67 with a 62already. make the front ends legal as so many people already have them and leave the rules alone for a change

 

I agree 100%.. Rather then trying to divide every single class by changing rules, adjust yourself to fit a class. Index classes are great and it sounds like that's exactly where your car fits best...

Another option is rather then trying to divide them and have empty classes at 80% of the events. Allow different combination's in the same class with weight breaks.
This way you maintain full fields and can have different setup going at each other...

 

..62mm class n perhaps on pump gas

 

it doesnt seem like theres enough competitors to fill up all these classes, if you're not comfortable competing in the true street class with a 62mm i would just race index

 

I think we should try to adjust to the class instead of changing the rules, I dont run true street because I dont think ill be competitive right now, but that's what makes it fun in my opinion trying to catch the guys that are setting the standard... at the end of the day we always want to make our cars faster.

 

This is not an attempt to build a class around my setup, this is to give people with mild setups a chance to run a heads up class where they feel they actually have a chance compete. A 200 pound weight break doesnt make up for 100 hp imo

 

seems like a lot of people want these different classes with the intentions on dominating the field because they want the class to be based around their setup.

if the established rules in these classes stay the same, instead of changing every other year or branching off new classes, eventually more people will start building cars to these specs and the fields will be much more competitive.

 

haha didnt see that last comment

 

I'd be willing to bet that a 61-62mm class wouldnt do all that great in the long run.

You might attract a few new people to come out, but for how long?

These are they type of guys that still drive their cars on the street and dont want to go crazy with their set ups. That is completely understandable.

However, what happens when someone builds a purpose built race car for that class. Lets say Hunt decides to race in that class. Will everyone step up and try to beat him or just go back to not racing because they cant keep up?
I mean if you are willing to say that we would attract new racers by having a class that limits turbo to that size, then what happens when the fast continue to get faster in the class?

I'd say that those same people you built the class for, those new racers you are trying to attract, end up not racing. Its essentially the same thing they are doing now. Not coming out to race because of competition.

This just happen with true street. Last year everyone praised it for being an entry level turbo class. Then a few guys stepped up and crushed it. Now we are back to - well lets make another class.

I'm not directing this at anyone. I am just playing devil's advocate.