Material
Fiberglass

Fiberglass Material
Electrical Grade Fiberglass (GP03)

Backing
Plain Back

Shape
Sheets, Bars, Strips, and Cubes

Sheets, Bars, Strips, and Cubes Type
Rectangular Sheet

Thickness
1/8"

Thickness Tolerance
±.010"

Length
36"

Length Tolerance
±.031"

Width
24"

Width Tolerance
±.031"

Opaque
Red

Operating Temperature Range
Up to +248° F

Performance Characteristic
High Tensile Strength and High Impact Strength and Flame Retardant

Tensile Strength
10,000 psi

Impact Strength
8.2 ft.-lbs/in

Tolerance
Standard

Hardness
Barcol 50

Specifications Met
Underwriters Laboratories (UL)

UL Rating
UL 94V0



Is this good enough to make a sunroof plug out of? Should I go thicker or thinner or is 1/8" thick good?

For a 93 SI.

Thanks.

 

damn thats some good info! where did you get that at?

 

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McMaster-Carr

http://www.Mcmaster.com


Trying to find something sandable for shaping to the roof slope and paintable. If the material posted in my first post is not suitable, Ill take any recomendations.

Thanks.

 

http://www.lighterfaster.com makes a very nice CF sunroof plug.

 

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They make a great product but they took around 4 months to get me the plug after I paid for it.

 

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I would agree. 400.00 is alot to spend though. if I can find the right materials, plug it for much less.

 

i got my from them 2. i bought the fiberglass plug. wosh i never did.
thin very flexable wast of 300$. could of made my own with aluminun for 50$

thaught i was getting alot better product. they should of put at least 2 ribs in the bottom side for stability.

they can only get u 1nce

 

That's nice... Glad we paid to overnight this to you at our cost. You never said anything to me after you got the fiberglass panel. This is the first I've heard. I could have put enough ribs in there to support 500 lbs but then it wouldn't conform to the top of you car. Did you run it on the car yet and did you install it properly? We have customers that have had our carbon panels above 160 mph now and the carbon panels aren't that much stiffer, just lighter. BTW we charged you $270 for the panel and hardware plus $30 S/H shipping. Again it is supposed to be flexible so it conforms to the roofline but when it is attached to 16 steel brackets with stainless fasteners are you really trying to tell me that panel is going anywhere? With aluminum you are going to be about 30% heavier to get the same stiffness as the fiberglass kit we sent you then you have to fab and find all the right hardware for the kit. No you can't find any decent hardware at Home Depot. I'll tell you what since you are so unhappy with that panel you can return it to us for a full refund minus shipping anytime as long as it is un-drilled and in as new condition. Then you can go put together your aluminum kit.

 

I got my carbon plug from Lighterfaster.com in a timely manner and it fits great. It's not a small job to install one of these properly. If you do it right, it'll form to the shape of the roof, and will be very solid.

 

Yah you could use that stuff from Mcmaster and then just buy our hardware kit to install it right. Bad thing with this stuff is you gotta paint it. This is pultruded fiberglass sheet so its heavier, thicker and not as stiff as our panels so you might get some sag. The hardware part of our kit is really where it shines but you can use any composite sheet from .075"-.125". But if that last guy thought our panel was flexible this one is going to be moreso. We vacuum infuse all of our parts including our fiberglass stuff and do not use chopped matte, only long fiber Eglass. So it is just about as stiff as you can get for a fiberglass panel of the same thickness. Vacuum infusion gives you a much better resin/fiber ratio, close to prepregs so you get a good part compared to say regular vacuum bagging or hand layup. So we are using a premium manufacturing method but not good enough for some I guess.

Just so everyone knows that is $370 for a carbon kit plus $30 for shipping and handling. We ship evverything in custom made double sided boxes via insured Priority Mail so the panel arrives safe. For that you get a vacuum infused carbon panel CNC water jet cut to our pattern and then the machined edges are hand sanded to remove the cut marks of the water jet. Then the panel is cleaned and hand buffed to a shine. We have a metal fab shop cut, bend, and punch our 4 styles of steel and aluminum brackets. Each bracket type is made to fit a given car. Also you get black Loctite silicone to seal the edge with a flatter than factory seal. Then we provide very tiny, black, countersunk, stainless machine screws that fit flush with the panel so no hardware sticks up to catch the wind. Underneath you get tiny, black, stainless, Nylock nuts that you can tighten and then back off half a turn to make sure you don't get any dimpling around the fastener as you see in some lexan installs using rivets. Our panel mounts flush with and not on top of the roof by way of our bracket locating tool.

Yes anyone could rivet lexan to their roof but our kit is just meant to be a quality painless solution to removing your sunroof. Also you get install instructions. I will be happy to help anyone put together a kit given their own panel. As I said though vaccum infusion builds some good parts. We try to do the best we can for customers but I know I can't please everyone. We have a 90 day money back guarantee on our products so we stand behind them completely. We also take care of any manufacturing defects for up to a year of purchase.

 

I am excited for my lighterfaster plug to show up.



So is my car, it wants its new cage and to be put back together.

 

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I'll tell you what since you are so unhappy with that panel you can return it to us for a full refund minus shipping anytime as long as it is un-drilled and in as new condition. </TD></TR></TABLE>

 

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Thanks Tony, hey don't you run an Integra. LOL This is the guy I was talking about. I was wrong our fastest customer has gone 161 mph Like I said in my reply to "ALL IMPORT" the carbon kits are only slightly more stiff than the glass panel you bought so I don't really understand what problem you are having. I'll say it again though, email me and get the kit back to me in as new condition and I'll give you your money back. I'd rather do that than have someone hate the product.

 

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So is my car, it wants its new cage and to be put back together. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Hey Nick yours was buffed a few hours ago and is in the box now, I'll email you a tracking number in the morning.

 

Woohoo!

 

Also its going to that shop address you gave me, not your house. Sorry for the highjack DC4, I just wanted to set the record straight and offer my services should you decide to use that pultruded fiberglass. I once helped a guy named Dinko on here build something cheap that would work and he used this red stuff with our hardware kit with my help. Turned out fine.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crx12 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also its going to that shop address you gave me, not your house. Sorry for the highjack DC4, I just wanted to set the record straight and offer my services should you decide to use that pultruded fiberglass. I once helped a guy named Dinko on here build something cheap that would work and he used this red stuff with our hardware kit with my help. Turned out fine.</TD></TR></TABLE>

NP. Can you Im me cost of the hardware and details of going about doing this?

Thanks.

 

Yup over the shop is perfect, I'm never at home anyways. ;P

As far as customer service goes I have to give a to Adam. He has kept me in the loop as to its progress every step of the way. I'll take some pictures as installation begins.

 

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NP. Can you Im me cost of the hardware and details of going about doing this?

Thanks.</TD></TR></TABLE>

IM Sent

 

well your product fits perfect ill give u that.
but as far as i am concerned it is missleading, i was expecting something stiffer that wouldent flex as easy thats it is all. when i opend the box the guys at the shop were like "what the hell is that"
yes it can hold up to high speed i had my teg at 167mph & it didnt fly out. that wasnt at the track; my track speed was 141mph.

dont get mad im just telling my opinion on a product i got.
as far as making 1 its not hard i know how to fab just got lazy & didnt want to deal with the mess of fiberglass work.

u should take this into mind for future production

 

Well exactly what is misleading? If you go back over the 3 years I have been an on and off sponosor on HT you won't see any talk of ribs on the back or anything other than flat. In fact in many of my posts I came out and said this is a flat sheet that is slightly flexible to maintain the roof curve but stiff enough to hold up to the wind. I can site posts from as far back as 3 years ago where I was asked about this. I'm just a little upset you never asked about how stiff it was or ribs on the back and now you are saying you were mislead. If in all my advertising I state what you get and its out there for all to see and then a customer is upset about what they got when they didn't ask how can I help that? If it fit well and holds up at 167 mph what more do you want for a racecar. Like I said I could add more thickness but then you increase weight. We build the panels as light as we can.


Here is a picture I posted in my last sponsor thread of the back of the panel:



Here is the post it came from:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1770017

As far as being able to build a panel yourself I'm sure you can. Anyone can dump some resin down and drop some fiberglass but if a vacuum infused panel isn't good enough for you I'm not sure how you would build it. After being in the composites business for 5 years or so and even working on a carbon fiber GM factory program I know how hard it is to make good parts. You seem to be a bit casual about it and it isn't easy to make good parts. There are a ton of companies that try vacuum infusion and give up either due to money running out or getting to fed up with technical issues. We are a company of three and it took 6 months to figure it out. Also you said you didn't want to deal with the mess of building your own panel. If you are set up to do it and do it the right way there should be no mess. Yah wet layup is messy but that really is an inferior way to build parts. Build a panel with wet layup that is the same thickness as our panel and its going to be a lot more flexible. It's funny the guys at the shop opened it up and said "what the hell" and then put it on the car and it held up fine. When there is a steel bracket every 5" or so the panel becomes stiffer than it is just on its own. Walk up to any Honda and press on the metal hood, door panel or stand on the roof, it will give some and even deform but somehow they call it acceptable. I truly am sorry it wasn't what you expected. Since its already in the car I will be happy to offer you a discount on anything we build here as a way of making amends if you ever do order from us again.

 

I've had my plug on for 3 yrs now and its still in place and still fits good.

 

I'm waiting for mine!

Lighterfaster

 

I love mine.... Thanks Adam and Lighterfaster.com

It only took about 3 weeks including shipping time.

 

Plan on getting shot at from above? lol