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Old Jan 30, 2012 | 05:31 PM
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Ok guys, I have an ek hatch and I'm sumping the tank for a dual Bosch 044 setup... Basically im trying to figure out the best way to vent the tank... I'm pulling the cover off where the factory feed and return are and making a plate to cover that up... I'm going to have a fitting welded into that for the return... Is there something I can put in that plate to act as a vent? The car is mainly track car but will be driven on the streets... I just wanna make sure I do this right so I don't have an issue of fuel sloshing out or an extreme fuel fume smell or anything like that... Any photos of how you have your setup done would be much appreciated
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Old Jan 30, 2012 | 05:45 PM
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i run the fcs tank and i just leave the gas cap crack for the vent.
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Old Jan 30, 2012 | 06:12 PM
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What's wrong with using the factory vent?
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Old Jan 30, 2012 | 06:20 PM
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What's wrong with using the factory vent?

its what i did
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Old Jan 30, 2012 | 06:31 PM
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factory tank, with a sump, sux.
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Old Jan 30, 2012 | 06:36 PM
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why is that matt i keep hearing people say this, and have no clue why necause i have never had an issue with mine at all

so fill us in on what the issues are
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Old Jan 30, 2012 | 06:41 PM
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lol i just always hated after braking the big end that i had to wait for the fuel to fall back in and let the pump stop cavitation... or when you get low on fuel by accident it pretty much won't go anywhere lol
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Old Jan 30, 2012 | 06:43 PM
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lol ahhhh i was expecting some big explenation lol
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Old Jan 30, 2012 | 06:51 PM
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plus the rust aka e2O3.nH2O
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Old Jan 30, 2012 | 06:53 PM
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agree with rusting
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Old Jan 30, 2012 | 06:54 PM
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That's why I went with the fuel cell lol
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Old Jan 30, 2012 | 07:03 PM
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fcs fuel tank is a top 10 item on my car.
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 01:15 PM
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Look into a surge tank
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 05:19 PM
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I am curious how most people are sumping their stock tanks, are you cutting out a chunk of the stock tank and then welding in the sump on? Or are some of you guys drilling a couple holes where the sump is gunna go then welding the sump on?
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by SPOOLINmatt
factory tank, with a sump, sux.
Yeah that's helpful for Randy's thread.

Randy, I used the factory one homie.
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 09:46 PM
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I used -6AN sized one way check valves for vents back in the day before the NRG and FCS cells came about
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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 03:49 PM
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I'm running a stock tank sumped w/no rust or probs (besides like stated earlier if u slam on the brakes hard) but it hasnt been a big prob for me. I stripped my tank and drilled 5-6 holes and then welded a sump we bent up to it. Re-undercoated the tank and it's been good to go every since, AND the stock fuel gauge still works great..lol. I used the stock return off the cap and ran rubber hose to behind the bumper hope that helps man
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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 05:18 PM
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Randy, I am doing the exact setup you just named (Factory tank sumped with two -8's for the 044's, and -8 return welded to a cap in stock location) and I am going to use the factory vent. No point in overcomplicating things...
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 09:27 PM
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Roughly how much gas do you have to keep in the tank to avoid issues?

I noticed in a vid lately someone would shut their car off right after passing the 1/4 mile mark. Could tat have anything to do with having a dumped tank and trying to avoid issues during breaking?
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 11:25 PM
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Mine doesn't do it when it's a 1/2 tank or fuller, ....u could always build a surge tank sobit has a gal or so on tap at all times
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Old Feb 3, 2012 | 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by FunctionovaForm
Roughly how much gas do you have to keep in the tank to avoid issues?

I noticed in a vid lately someone would shut their car off right after passing the 1/4 mile mark. Could tat have anything to do with having a dumped tank and trying to avoid issues during breaking?
yeah i always shut off right after the qtr no matter how much fuel is in the tank.
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Old Feb 3, 2012 | 12:10 PM
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Seems like a lot of hassle.running a oem tank.having to fill it up so the.pumps don't starve or to buy a surge setup which in turn will prolly cost more then replacing it with a FCS.one and solving all those issues while saving a ton of weight .
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Old Feb 3, 2012 | 12:13 PM
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Well if something was offered that held more than 5 gallons, then I'd be interested.... I have no intentions on driving my car around with a gas can full of e85 hanging out in the back....

Thanks for all the replies everyone
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Old Feb 3, 2012 | 12:16 PM
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FCS offers a 9 gallon and a 15 gallon. Oem location
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Old Feb 3, 2012 | 12:53 PM
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Interesting, I'll have to check them out
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