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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 07:45 AM
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I am planning to go with a quafe and was told that the LS diff is stronger than a GSR one because of the bearing that the diff sits in
I was told that since the bearing for the GSR is tapered it would allow movement side to side unlike the LS or b16 ones which are flat
Is this true?
I want to build a tranny for my all-motor hatch and don't want to do it twice
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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 07:57 AM
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I prefer the tapperd roller bearing. tony1 will explain, he made me convert.

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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 06:59 PM
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A tapered roller bearing will provide support from all directions. A regular cartridge bearing will only provide support against the races, not side to side. Try taking a tapered bearing and laying it on an open vice. Press down on the center....it won't go anywhere. Do the same with the other bearing....if you push hard enough, the middle will pop out and you'll end up with your ***** on the floor . At some point on the later gsr's honda went back to the regular style bearing for some reason, cost and interchangibility I assume. I haven't ever heard of any problems with either bearing really.
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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 07:02 PM
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has any one ever had a problem with either style bearings?
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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 07:47 PM
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I've never seen a problem with either.
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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 08:14 PM
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Default Re: which is a stronger LSD (tony1)

tony im still usingmy quaif in my car think it will hold or should i use a spool in my h22 tranny in the my race car
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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 08:18 PM
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Default Re: which is a stronger LSD (h22civic2)

Well, we still use a quaife so unless you are making more power than us I think you'll be alright.
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Old Dec 5, 2002 | 01:06 AM
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spool
quaife
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Old Dec 5, 2002 | 07:57 PM
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Is the Phantom Grip or ITR not worth the money or time?
Or just spend more for the Quaif with the lifetime warranty?
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Old Dec 5, 2002 | 09:47 PM
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Tony,
What b series tranny are you running in your car if you dont mind me asking??
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Old Dec 6, 2002 | 04:39 AM
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Default Re: which is a stronger LSD (MotorMatrix.com)

We run a type r tranny...
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Old Dec 6, 2002 | 06:00 AM
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I have a b16 jdm tranny from a obd1 do you think it will hold up to the 300+ power range with a drag run every so often.
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Old Dec 6, 2002 | 06:01 AM
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Its obviously a custom gear ratio correct? my type r tranny only goes like 150mph in 4th at 10k. I dont want to shift 5th to finish the 1/4 mile. you guys finish the 1/4 in 4th at 172mph??
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Old Dec 6, 2002 | 06:20 AM
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Its obviously a custom gear ratio correct? my type r tranny only goes like 150mph in 4th at 10k. I dont want to shift 5th to finish the 1/4 mile. you guys finish the 1/4 in 4th at 172mph??
what are you smokeing in order for me to bleave your bs you would have to send me a streight copy of your time slipe but since you wont stop talking (&^( 172 in the 1/4 you nots and you drive every day come back from you daydream.
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Old Dec 6, 2002 | 06:36 AM
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Stock gears, I promise. What size tire are you running? We are running a 28" tire which is 29" if you are doing the math on the gear ratios because of expansion. You seem real quick to jump to conclusions about what we are running. We run a quaife, type r tranny, and stock gears. Anything else you would like to doubt me on?
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Old Dec 6, 2002 | 06:37 AM
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I have a b16 jdm tranny from a obd1 do you think it will hold up to the 300+ power range with a drag run every so often.
You shouldn't have any problems at that power...
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Old Dec 6, 2002 | 06:51 AM
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I agree with you tony my car bounced off rev limiter at 10,200 going 150 with 25's a 28 inch tire would easily give you 22 more mph not evn considering what thos big boys are groqing to up top.You say 28's go to 29's down the track when I see you guys run they frigging look like 32 inch super swampers
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Old Dec 6, 2002 | 06:57 AM
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Thanks I was hopeing it would hold up and sorry but I seen the type R on the pic
so I figured it was that car. I may be wrong if motormatrix is talking about the drag drag car ok I apolgize for the jumping on the statement. but back to the 300+ power problem
with my set up
b16 84 1/2 bore with ls crank with 9.1 compr. after the one point drop thicker head gasket. 68 mm TB and skunk2 intake manifold.
t3 turbonitics with 60 trim 255 fuel pump, 310 injectors going to run around 20psi
basicly I can go on the suspension is fully done every little thing I could have done to the motor has been done the head is still stock I'll change it next srping obdI converstion harness done all of this is in a 98 Hb I am being a little under rating my set up because my buddie has the same set up with AEM IMS and a fully built head. He has 500+ with 30 psi. So on the dyno I may see 400 may be at 20 psi without going to 25 the turbo may not have good boost at that.
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Old Dec 6, 2002 | 07:15 AM
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Default Re: which is a stronger LSD (MotorMatrix.com)

Type-R LSD

Quaife

Both will break though I spoke to LIP at the track one day and he had broken a Quaife in his all motor Integra.
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Old Dec 6, 2002 | 07:25 AM
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310 injectors going to run around 20psi



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Old Dec 6, 2002 | 11:31 PM
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Default Re: which is a stronger LSD (tony1)

Stock gears, I promise. What size tire are you running? We are running a 28" tire which is 29" if you are doing the math on the gear ratios because of expansion. You seem real quick to jump to conclusions about what we are running. We run a quaife, type r tranny, and stock gears. Anything else you would like to doubt me on?
Im not doubting, just asking questions. on stock tranny you obvious then run 5th gear also to trap at 172mph. the way i figured it a stock wheel type r will do 172mph in 5th at 9k. so with the tall tire 28 tire you guys are in 5th but up at 8k or so.

One more quick question tony off this subject. what air fuel do you guys run on methanol to make it down the track on 1gal?? Our civic drinks it like nothing but fuel and timing is very conservative on our car. thanks for your help
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Old Dec 7, 2002 | 05:12 AM
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Default Re: which is a stronger LSD (MotorMatrix.com)

We run a type R tranny and DON'T go into 5th.

Air/Fuel Ratio.....the world may never know....
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