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Old May 12, 2009 | 03:56 PM
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Does anyone know if anybody makes thrust washers oversized? Got only 6 damn passed on low boost and my thrust washer is screwed, probably took 5-10 thousands off the damn crank! Does anyone make em? Was thinking is someone did, it might get me through the season. thanks guys
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Old May 12, 2009 | 04:06 PM
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when i had those issues i took it to a crank doctor and he welded it and machine it back to specs.
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Old May 12, 2009 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 22_42r_eg
when i had those issues i took it to a crank doctor and he welded it and machine it back to specs.
Just not trying to take everything back apart again you know, if i could just slip a over sized thrust washer in there i should be good right?
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Old May 12, 2009 | 05:47 PM
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Good luck! Last time i checked for a customer they were like 17weeks out! This was about 6 weeks ago.
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Old May 12, 2009 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by JDMisGOOD
Good luck! Last time i checked for a customer they were like 17weeks out! This was about 6 weeks ago.
who made them, honda? I called our local acura and honda and they only have on part number for a standard size.
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Old May 12, 2009 | 06:14 PM
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The thrust surface rarely wears evenly.Oversized thrusts are typically used on a crank that has been ground for them,not as a quick fix.
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Old May 12, 2009 | 09:48 PM
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I think ACL had some over/undersize thrust washers.
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Old May 12, 2009 | 09:57 PM
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are you sure you dont want to find out why it failed??
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Old May 12, 2009 | 11:28 PM
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Crank walk?
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Old May 13, 2009 | 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Garage 808 Hatch
are you sure you dont want to find out why it failed??
yes i do, but it can only be because lack of oil right, and I have great oil pressure, or to much clutch engagement? Everything is brand new!

I made another thread before this one the other day but did not get much response, but on my last two oil changes nothing came out of the filter when i took off the filter! Oil should always come out everytime you take it off right? I never seen it before. Im just seeing what my options are.

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Old May 13, 2009 | 05:34 AM
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You probably don't have enough clearence...
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Old May 13, 2009 | 06:14 AM
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What do the actual thrust washers look like ? You should be able to tell if it was oil starvation.

We have ruined a few thrust washers by over engaging the clutch, pedal stop fixed that . .
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Old May 13, 2009 | 02:46 PM
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What do the actual thrust washers look like ? You should be able to tell if it was oil starvation.

We have ruined a few thrust washers by over engaging the clutch, pedal stop fixed that . .
yea deff not a lack of oil, I bet its the damn clutch engagement! Did not put my petal stop in! I guess you live and you learn!
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Old May 13, 2009 | 03:14 PM
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I do not crank my car with the pedal depressed so as to not do harm to the thrust bearing surfaces. I do have a pedal stop, also. I don't have a monster clutch in my car, but, I am just afraid of doing damage to the bearings.
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Old May 13, 2009 | 03:53 PM
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I do not crank my car with the pedal depressed so as to not do harm to the thrust bearing surfaces. I do have a pedal stop, also. I don't have a monster clutch in my car, but, I am just afraid of doing damage to the bearings.
im running the hd CC twin disc. Now i need to find a crank!
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Old May 13, 2009 | 05:50 PM
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are you sure you put the flat side against the block and the slots towards the crank. i have seen a few people do this by accident.
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Old May 13, 2009 | 06:01 PM
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are you sure you put the flat side against the block and the slots towards the crank. i have seen a few people do this by accident.
^^^ possible??
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Old May 13, 2009 | 06:40 PM
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^^^ yes this is possible. i have seen it done.

The clutch does not make the thrust washers wear. Starting the car with the clutch pressed in allows you to put pressure on the thrust washers as you crank it with no oil pressure. That is what puts premature wear on them. Always start your car without the clutch pressed in!
It is also a common misconception that a high clamp pressure plate puts extra force on the crank. The clamp has nothing to do with how much force is put on the crank. When the pressure plate is clamped, it is not pushing on the crank at all. The only time the crank is being pushed on is when the pedal is pressed in. The pedal effort can sometimes be sometimes be less than 100lbs more than stock, even though the clamping force can be several hundred pounds higher than stock.
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Old May 13, 2009 | 06:50 PM
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^^^ yes this is possible. i have seen it done.

The clutch does not make the thrust washers wear. Starting the car with the clutch pressed in allows you to put pressure on the thrust washers as you crank it with no oil pressure. That is what puts premature wear on them. Always start your car without the clutch pressed in!
It is also a common misconception that a high clamp pressure plate puts extra force on the crank. The clamp has nothing to do with how much force is put on the crank. When the pressure plate is clamped, it is not pushing on the crank at all. The only time the crank is being pushed on is when the pedal is pressed in. The pedal effort can sometimes be sometimes be less than 100lbs more than stock, even though the clamping force can be several hundred pounds higher than stock.


I tried to explain this in another thread, and no one understood that, lol.

what i meant is it possible that, that is what he did. I've seen it happen, but stopped the person from continuing
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Old May 13, 2009 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by turbotypeR@SPEC
^^^ yes this is possible. i have seen it done.

The clutch does not make the thrust washers wear. Starting the car with the clutch pressed in allows you to put pressure on the thrust washers as you crank it with no oil pressure. That is what puts premature wear on them. Always start your car without the clutch pressed in!
It is also a common misconception that a high clamp pressure plate puts extra force on the crank. The clamp has nothing to do with how much force is put on the crank. When the pressure plate is clamped, it is not pushing on the crank at all. The only time the crank is being pushed on is when the pedal is pressed in. The pedal effort can sometimes be sometimes be less than 100lbs more than stock, even though the clamping force can be several hundred pounds higher than stock.

So what you are saying is that over engaging the clutch has no direct effect on the thrust washers?
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Old May 13, 2009 | 07:37 PM
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Actually its Overly disengaging the clutch/too much throw on the throw out bearing, i believe is what he says is doing the damage
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Old May 13, 2009 | 07:53 PM
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when i had my issues w the thrust it was due to an out of balance and shredded clutchmasters twin.
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Old May 14, 2009 | 05:57 PM
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the oil cannot get between the crank and thrust bearing if the two slots are not towards the crank.
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Old May 14, 2009 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 2fastGSR
So what you are saying is that over engaging the clutch has no direct effect on the thrust washers?
I guess you mean disengaging the clutch? If you push the clutch past the point of disengagment, it would probably raise the pedal effort a bit, but I am not sure how much. Tommorow, I will put one on the test bench and give you some exact numbers. My point was really to stress the fact that the most common cause of thrust washer wear is from pushing on them without having oil pressure. I also wanted to point out the fact that just because you have a high clamp pressure plate, it doesn't mean that the pedal effort(which is the only thing that effects the thrust washer) is high. It could be, but not always.
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Old May 14, 2009 | 08:00 PM
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is this just a problem with twin disc clutches or any aftermarket clutch?
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