I have an EG that I put an h22 in about 4-5 yrs ago, if not longer. anyway, I had never run into axle problems with this car until recently.
Previous setup was:
h22a w/ a h22 trans, quaife LSD, DA axles and a accord half shaft. 222hp and 153 tq
Launched at 7500 rpm with 2 step so it was consistent every time. I would have 1.65 60' times. I never broke an axle... act 6puck unsprung clutch.
22x8 M&Hslicks on Bogart Pro 4's

New setup:
h2b setup with a b16 trans and an obx lsd (works great and cheap). B series axles, stock. First i was using DA axles, but I changed them to DC now. clutchmasters twin disc clutch.
24.5x8.5 M&H slocks on Bogart Pro 4's

Delema:
I keep popping axles, I snapped the crap out of the spline inside the DA halfshaft and couldnt get the axle chunk out of it. Done with that race.
This past weekend, I was running a brand new set of DC axles and on my first launch, I launch, and POP! my axle goes again! WTF. I snapped the spline off the end of the outer CV, into the hub.

* Is this a common problem?

* When people say they snap an axle, is this what they are talking about, breaking the ends off the axle? I always thought they blew up the bearings or something...

* should I drop the slick size down to a 23?

Next issue: This happened over the weekend. I think it might be dizzy related but lend me some input. I smash through all the gears, and every shift, it kind of stuggles and then starts going, there is hesitation between shifts. Then finally, in 4th gear, i smash and the car just hickups. I push the gas and it seems like im gas*break*gas*breaking the car. Never experienced this before...

any input is appreciated

Here are some pics of the car.





Modified by DSRxCandyh22EG at 12:24 PM 9/22/2008

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DSRxCandyh22EG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have an EG that I put an h22 in about 4-5 yrs ago, if not longer. anyway, I had never run into axle problems with this car until recently.
Previous setup was:
h22a w/ a h22 trans, quaife LSD, DA axles and a accord half shaft. 222hp and 153 tq
Launched at 7500 rpm with 2 step so it was consistent every time. I would have 1.65 60' times. I never broke an axle... act 6puck unsprung clutch.
22x8 M&Hslicks on Bogart Pro 4's

New setup:
h2b setup with a b16 trans and an obx lsd (works great and cheap). B series axles, stock. First i was using DA axles, but I changed them to DC now. clutchmasters twin disc clutch.
24.5x8.5 M&H slocks on Bogart Pro 4's

Delema:
I keep popping axles, I snapped the crap out of the spline inside the DA halfshaft and couldnt get the axle chunk out of it. Done with that race.
This past weekend, I was running a brand new set of DC axles and on my first launch, I launch, and POP! my axle goes again! WTF. I snapped the spline off the end of the outer CV, into the hub.

* Is this a common problem?

* When people say they snap an axle, is this what they are talking about, breaking the ends off the axle? I always thought they blew up the bearings or something...

* should I drop the slick size down to a 23?

any input is appreciated

Here are some pics of the car.


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we are also breaking a lot of axle related parts on our H2B. Axle splines literally twisting off. Lately we seem to be kicking Diff parts out the back of the trans case!

we are going to try launching on a little more PSI and maybe a little higher RPM..

We find that new axles last maybe 2 events. then we swap them out regardless of if they break or not.

 

i bet your slicks are too big for the power you're making so when you launch, they are just hooking hard and the first thing to give is the axle shaft. try going higher pressure on the slicks or a smaller slick. you want some spinning off the line to save parts.

 

are you guys preloading the car, i have never had an issue with shafts or whatnot.
i been preloading the car on 2step at 6500rpm

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mikey3000 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i bet your slicks are too big for the power you're making so when you launch, they are just hooking hard and the first thing to give is the axle shaft. try going higher pressure on the slicks or a smaller slick. you want some spinning off the line to save parts.</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats my thought as well.
kinda like up when we step up to 26"s

 

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I was running about 9 to 10 psi and launching at 4k after my first axle broke. Lame, 1.88 60's are depressing... i also did a first gear burnout... so sad! haha

The axle died when i had about 7 or 8 psi and launched at 6k... 2nd gear burnout as well..

I'm scared to smash off the line now. I'm going to go in for therapy cause I'm building a slight phobia for launches.

 

lol i feel your pain. i've broken about 4 axles and it sucks *****. i finally made my own motor mounts to move the motor back towards the firewall to straighten the axles up a bit. after 6 runs so far so good *knocks on wood*. what mounts are you using?

 

when u say b series axle stock, is it after market or OEM....i had dis problem before and i was using 24.5 m&h slicks, aftermarket axle and its broken 2 axles braking from the hub spline (twisted) i replaced it with a stock OEM and it never brke ever since...and that aftermarket axle was also brand new!

 

i use to break axles but after installing the avid traction mounts it stopped, do you guys have traction bars?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDCIVIC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">when u say b series axle stock, is it after market or OEM....i had dis problem before and i was using 24.5 m&h slicks, aftermarket axle and its broken 2 axles braking from the hub spline (twisted) i replaced it with a stock OEM and it never brke ever since...and that aftermarket axle was also brand new!</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDCIVIC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">when u say b series axle stock, is it after market or OEM....i had dis problem before and i was using 24.5 m&h slicks, aftermarket axle and its broken 2 axles braking from the hub spline (twisted) i replaced it with a stock OEM and it never brke ever since...and that aftermarket axle was also brand new!</TD></TR></TABLE>

im using a tracking bar, some cheapy but it does the job... i might look into it more though because my axle only breaks on the driver side and the driver side traction bar sits against my oilpan and runs against it pretty badly...

p.s. im using aftermarket stock axles that are new. yea they are shitty quality compared to oem for sure...

 

try some oem axles

i had a problem with new remans from autozone
i boosted in freeway it breaks and makes me loose control almost killed me
after i put in oem DC ones it stop doing that

 

Does anyone think I should try to use some 23's?? Would i be spinning em too much??

 

Seems to me one have one common problem, That is "cheap".

First I would look at your engine mounts, make sure the engine is not moving to much.

Second, fix that traction bar, stop it from binding.

Third, stop buying cheap axles, IMO this is one area where you get what you pay for.

Fourth, make sure the drive line components are in the best possible alignment. Look things over, jack up the front of the car as if it were launching and notice the angles. You want things to be a close to neutral as possible.

Learn what the suspension is doing. Then make changes if needed.

What do you have for a suspension?

 

just get some OEM axles u will be fine!!

 

Try 23s Joone, I dont think it would hurt. We should have raised the Tire Pressure more yesterday. You wouldve atleast gotten a clean run.

As far as your bogging. I believe its time we change out your MSD. Its been giving you problems hasnt it?

We have a little time before BAKERSFIELD BUDDY! LETS DO THIS SAND NIJJAR!

 

The MSD popped on me already, so its gone. Im using my original Dizzy tho and im gonna get that replaced already this week if not next week. I think i should invest in a new traction bar tho. one that isnt as bulky on the legs that go towards the a arms... OEM axles are like 300/side. why not just invest in some aftermarket race axles???

 

What clutch are you running. Some clutches are easier on the driveline.

I'm also a big fan of a rebuilt dizzy for cars our age.

There's a thought about lower tire pressure gives the slicks a chance to absorb some of the shock.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1992Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What clutch are you running. Some clutches are easier on the driveline.

I'm also a big fan of a rebuilt dizzy for cars our age.

There's a thought about lower tire pressure gives the slicks a chance to absorb some of the shock.

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yea, dizzy is gonna go in this week or next... im gonna be looking at a new traction bar and smaller slicks might fix my issue. we will see how it goes...

tire pressure being able to absorb shock is wrong in my opinion. Lower pressue is usually why axles snap, cause the bounce back blows them up.... The wheel is spinning faster than the tire and causes binding....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1992Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What clutch are you running. Some clutches are easier on the driveline.

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i believe hes on clutchmasters twin disc

 

Honestly I would get away from stock axles regardless of OEM or aftermarket. A twin-disc has NO give in it and the shock of the engagement is gonna break weak links. I have even broken axles shifting to 2nd and 3rd with a twin-disc. Save money, time, lost races, and hassle in the long run and just buy some DSS 3.9's or better!

 

yea its a clutchmasters twin disc. Anyone herd anything good about gator axles??

 

I was told by t1 not to waste my money just save for some dss. But I do know this that the gators are better than oem!

 

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Like the man said, save your money for DSS axles.

 

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i believe hes on clutchmasters twin disc</TD></TR></TABLE>

There is one of your answers.....twin disc's are harsh on "stock" axels. That's why I never upgraded to a twin disc. I am too broke to invest on Stage 5 DSS axels. They don't give me enough hours at McD's lately.

 

You're a baller....