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Hey guys im now running 150.4mph and have yet to pull the chute just wanted to know if theres something i should know before doing it. i mean does the car jerk left right?? any tips would be nice
pulling it at 150 and pulling it at 160 are 2 totally different experiences, pulling it at 120 isnt going to help you with anything.
pulling the chute with my simpson chute was nothing, you just felt the car slowing down. pulling it with my stroud chute is straight scary. im going back to the simpson chute. when i drove darrens car the stroud did exactly the same thing. seems to be worse on some runs than others and driving into the chute doesnt seem to make it any better.
my suggestion is to put the chute on the car for safety/tech purposes.....and put GSR brakes on the car so you dont have to use the chute. my civic wouldnt stop at most tracks with out the chute.....my integra will stop at englishtown with no problems at all. my civic barely stopped at etown with the chute lol
pulling the chute with my simpson chute was nothing, you just felt the car slowing down. pulling it with my stroud chute is straight scary. im going back to the simpson chute. when i drove darrens car the stroud did exactly the same thing. seems to be worse on some runs than others and driving into the chute doesnt seem to make it any better.
my suggestion is to put the chute on the car for safety/tech purposes.....and put GSR brakes on the car so you dont have to use the chute. my civic wouldnt stop at most tracks with out the chute.....my integra will stop at englishtown with no problems at all. my civic barely stopped at etown with the chute lol
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Turbo-charged »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">pulling it at 150 and pulling it at 160 are 2 totally different experiences, pulling it at 120 isnt going to help you with anything.
pulling the chute with my simpson chute was nothing, you just felt the car slowing down. pulling it with my stroud chute is straight scary. im going back to the simpson chute. when i drove darrens car the stroud did exactly the same thing. seems to be worse on some runs than others and driving into the chute doesnt seem to make it any better.
my suggestion is to put the chute on the car for safety/tech purposes.....and put GSR brakes on the car so you dont have to use the chute. my civic wouldnt stop at most tracks with out the chute.....my integra will stop at englishtown with no problems at all. my civic barely stopped at etown with the chute lol</TD></TR></TABLE>
what is the difference in the feel of the simpson versus the stroud
pulling the chute with my simpson chute was nothing, you just felt the car slowing down. pulling it with my stroud chute is straight scary. im going back to the simpson chute. when i drove darrens car the stroud did exactly the same thing. seems to be worse on some runs than others and driving into the chute doesnt seem to make it any better.
my suggestion is to put the chute on the car for safety/tech purposes.....and put GSR brakes on the car so you dont have to use the chute. my civic wouldnt stop at most tracks with out the chute.....my integra will stop at englishtown with no problems at all. my civic barely stopped at etown with the chute lol</TD></TR></TABLE>
what is the difference in the feel of the simpson versus the stroud
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i think im the only person on earth that prefers packing the simpson vs the stroud too. stroud seems to get tangled up a lot easier.
the simpson doesnt "hit". it just slows the car down. the stroud, you def. feel it hit, and feel the back end become way lighter than you would like, and sway side to side. its not like that every pass, but after it does it once it makes you nervous to pull it every time after that.
i want to try a simpson on my integra just to make sure its the chute and not the car. however the chute set up in my integra is a lot nicer (and higher) than my civic so i dont see it being the car. i'll update next season lol
the simpson doesnt "hit". it just slows the car down. the stroud, you def. feel it hit, and feel the back end become way lighter than you would like, and sway side to side. its not like that every pass, but after it does it once it makes you nervous to pull it every time after that.
i want to try a simpson on my integra just to make sure its the chute and not the car. however the chute set up in my integra is a lot nicer (and higher) than my civic so i dont see it being the car. i'll update next season lol
Joe, thats odd because most posts n archives that I've read, most say the the simpson is harsh and lifts the rear end. and the stroud is smoother n more suited for a street honda. I'm also in the hunt for a chute so now i'm a bit more torn. You selling your stroud?
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While my flamesuit is getting worn down, I'll add that my GSR fronts and stock EG si rears with Axxis ultimates always gave me way more time than needed at the 140 and up mark. I would shut my car off at the stripe and always had to limp the car to the end lol
A nice cold bite pad and easing into them can go a long way
A nice cold bite pad and easing into them can go a long way
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EG BEAST »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">all i know is i have a simpson and i haven't used it yet and never packed a chute. when i was looking at the directions i was like WTF so i hope i can learn lol.</TD></TR></TABLE>
on simpsons site there is a great vid on how to pack it.
on simpsons site there is a great vid on how to pack it.
yeah i got some hawk hp+ in the front and drums in the rear. i prefer to just brake, but some local track don`t have alot of braking room, not like Englishtown
I also think the simpson is a bit easier to pack than the stroud. I noticed the spring has a bit more pressure than the stroud. I had the stroud fail to deploy twice on the CRX but I believe the lack of a wing had more to do with that. But for some reason I was just a bit more comfortable using the simpson. The simpson chute does seem to hit a lot harder than the stroud though.
when i spoken with a couple of drivers using the stroud you can pack it a certain way for it to open immediately or a slower transition? ive seen many ways to pack them
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Turbo-charged »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">feel it hit, and feel the back end become way lighter than you would like, and sway side to side. </TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Turbo-charged »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the chute set up in my integra is a lot nicer (and higher) </TD></TR></TABLE>
I would guess that the position of the chute when deployed, in relation to the position of the tether attachment point, would be the cause for lifting / not lifting. If the aerodynamics of the car cause the chute to rise, I can see that lifting the rear end. SFWD cars don't have a trailing wing on the hatch / trunk to clean up the air trailing the car. Maybe we'll start to see that in the future.
Its logical that mounting the bag high will cause it to deploy much faster, since it gets better airflow.
<-- looking forward to going fast enough to have to pull mine in '09
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Turbo-charged »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the chute set up in my integra is a lot nicer (and higher) </TD></TR></TABLE>
I would guess that the position of the chute when deployed, in relation to the position of the tether attachment point, would be the cause for lifting / not lifting. If the aerodynamics of the car cause the chute to rise, I can see that lifting the rear end. SFWD cars don't have a trailing wing on the hatch / trunk to clean up the air trailing the car. Maybe we'll start to see that in the future.
Its logical that mounting the bag high will cause it to deploy much faster, since it gets better airflow.
<-- looking forward to going fast enough to have to pull mine in '09
I have packed both a Simpson and a Stroud. I liked packing the Simpson way better. However a Simpson was the first one I ever packed and the style I learned how to. So that may play into my opinion of which is easier.
I have seen the Stroud just hit the ground in its pack and just linger down on the ground. The Simpson can act the same way but without the "pack bag" seems to deploy much better. I always felt like the Stroud and Simpson chutes seemed to be made of different material. The Stroud seems thicker and a little harder.
I feel like at above 150 you really should be using the chute regardless of brake setup. I think if you keep in mind that you need to be smooth with the hit. If your in the brakes and clutch at the same time the chute is hitting your setting yourself up to have a hairy ride. If you throw the chute let it hit then clutch and start using the brakes I think you'll find it a great friend and useful tool. I personally have a Stroud on my car. I also have drum brakes on the rear and tiny 10" neon rotors up front. Even at slower speeds the chute is a useful safety tool. I feel even in the 140 range I'll be using it.
But bottom line is at 150 you have to have it so if it's on the car you have to at least give it a shot if you feel like your car is using a lot of brake. If you feel safe without using it and your not putting yourself or other racers at danger then by all means don't throw it. The goal is to just be as safe as possible.
I have seen the Stroud just hit the ground in its pack and just linger down on the ground. The Simpson can act the same way but without the "pack bag" seems to deploy much better. I always felt like the Stroud and Simpson chutes seemed to be made of different material. The Stroud seems thicker and a little harder.
I feel like at above 150 you really should be using the chute regardless of brake setup. I think if you keep in mind that you need to be smooth with the hit. If your in the brakes and clutch at the same time the chute is hitting your setting yourself up to have a hairy ride. If you throw the chute let it hit then clutch and start using the brakes I think you'll find it a great friend and useful tool. I personally have a Stroud on my car. I also have drum brakes on the rear and tiny 10" neon rotors up front. Even at slower speeds the chute is a useful safety tool. I feel even in the 140 range I'll be using it.
But bottom line is at 150 you have to have it so if it's on the car you have to at least give it a shot if you feel like your car is using a lot of brake. If you feel safe without using it and your not putting yourself or other racers at danger then by all means don't throw it. The goal is to just be as safe as possible.
I have a Stroud chute (the small one) and I can barely feel it hit. I started pulling it real late and it flopped around for a few seconds before it deployed
. I then started pulling it under power and it worked a lot better.
Get a small chute. Do not get the one that they recommend it will be too big and be a hand full.
. I then started pulling it under power and it worked a lot better. Get a small chute. Do not get the one that they recommend it will be too big and be a hand full.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm putting a big brake setup on my car. lol</TD></TR></TABLE>for what i didnt see you using the chute on that 8.9xx pass at 166





