Does anyone know or have realistic numbers of what would or is the drop off in power versus these two types of fuel?

Currently I am on Q16 making a bit over 550hp - Contemplating on switching to E85 depending on my loss of HP, etc.

 

With all the threads you make have you ever thought of using the search button? There are numerous threads listing research and development on most if not all the threads you make. You should try using it and reading them.

 

Glad I got your attention.

I will do whatever you say boss.

Gees.... People could be such E-Bullies

 

your wasting a **** ton of $$$ on fuel if your only making 550 on q16. you can make that on just pump gas...

 

[QUOTE=jskillzva;48424453]With all the threads you make have you ever thought of using the search button? There are numerous threads listing research and development on most if not all the threads you make. You should try using it and reading them.[/QUOT

OMG! Sir!!! After scrolling through pages that I initially DIDN'T want to do, I found SOME information.

Truth is, I was just lazy to browse through pages. I was hoping for a quick answer...

But per your orders, I will never post another topic because of the fear that it might bother you if there is another topic out there in the Honda-Tech world.

 

Its on low boost at the moment. I want to bump it up too 30+ lbs - But still not sure what will benefit me the most.

I mean, if I make 700 on Q16 and 680 on E85 (just throwing out numbers)

I can do with the minus 20hp and save the cash by using E85

 

The problem with E85 is that its not always 85% ethanol. That just means the maximum ethanol in it can't be more than 85%. It could be 60% at one pump and 30% at another, then 80% in a couple days. They do keep the level up there pretty high, but nothing says they have to.

But, as said earlier. You could easily google this information.

 

What is Q16?

 

most pumps will state the minimum ethanol content on the pump. lowest i've ever seen is 65% most all say 70%

 

i was trying to make a point that it can vary quite a bit. sure it works, but a race car should have race fuel

 

yay more stupid threads by PINKIE2

 

I keep all the smart ones entertained lol

 

Thanks for the info... Google has waaaaaay to much info. I didn't have have time to look through everything, I was hoping to just get a quick answer here... But now that I think about it, maybe I should have browsed Google.

People here are so mean . Bunch of E-thugs! Scawy lol

 

Ain't nobody got time for pinkies posts

 

We haven't done back to back on our turbo car, but we are currently running pump e85 on our turbo with good success.

Marc P

 

i think the biggest thing with E85 is consistency. Ive read that in colder climates (like e have here in New England), the "blend" will change greatly from summer to winter. So maybe in more stable/warmer climates it would be more consistent.

 

If some one was tuned on e85 that tested at 85, but then the next week, the pump e85 only tests at 80, would that be dangerous to run?

 

That's the point I was trying to make. Now, in my area of Florida we don't have E85 so I don't really have any first hand experience with it, but I have done a good bit of research on it cause I was expecting it to work its way in. I personally wouldn't run it in a serious car. A 300-400hp street car probably. The inconsistencies scare me.

 

I have ran pump E85 on my 11.5:1 b16 stock rods/cast pistons making 400+hp, other than taking a few more cranks than usual in the winter time to start, no ill effects here from the change in ethanol %. I ran the ethanol through all 4 seasons spring, summer, fall and winter here in NC. Between the change from summer to winter I went back for a retune of course. They have a website which tells you when they change the mix in each state month by month! I don't believe anyone has reach the detenation threshold of pump E85 yet (someone correct me if i'm wrong) I'm pretty sure alot of big name guys are or were running pump E85 in their drag cars i.e. Tony Palo, and TDAutowerks. If it works for them it should def work for you Pinkie! Try a google search, I believe the guys over on one of the Evo Forums did a Q16 vs E85 dyno test and the E85 picked up gains over the Q16 everywhere!

 

We run pump e85 in our race car. The most important thing is that you have to find a consistent supplier and stick with them. We test ours all the time and its usually between 87-89%. So when we travel to races we make sure that we fill up the car and a couple 5 gal gas cans so we have enough for the race. Consistency is key with e85.

But for the Q16 Vs E85 we have never even tried Q16. We have ran E85 since we put a turbo on the stock motor so I cant help you there sorry

 

Thank you all for the "positive" and smart replies.

This is what I was looking for... Thank you all.

Someone mentioned that it worked great on 3-400hp cars and I did run my Integra a few years back on E85 (430hp) and never did I have issues.

But with this set up I am undecided what will give me my best bang for the buck.

With the cost of fuel here in So Cal going up and up (Just paid $4.89 this morning) I can just imagine what it is going to do to the race fuel.

 

Your best bang for buck is E85 by far!! Race gas in my area is 3 to 4 times more expensive per gallon than E85.

 

You guys are forgetting fuel setup considerations between the two, as they are quite different on a 700hp car.

 

according to google the lowest its ever supposed to be is e70.

 

It was an exaggeration to prove a point. Maybe I should have stated that. Either way, are you ok with a 15% variation in octane? I'm not