T.M.F.T

it hard to point fingers and cast blame at that power level,but if they made you a promise they should live up to it.btw why did you put it on the dyno,if the oil pressure wasn't up to standards.

sanman000719

no its not you just heard the tuner say oil pressure was low from the start thats a build issue.

Project_EK

iTrader: (1)

If oil pressure was low from the start, why didnt u address the problem then? That could have saved you from this headache..also if they do such bad work, why would you have them sleeve another motor for you? Id be looking for some money back and find another shop!

T.M.F.T

so why tune it with low oil pressure,and how come it didn't grenade on the dyno

sanman000719

now now now i didnt say it was a great idea to tune it that way, but you have been told it was low from the get go so is this or is this not a build issue?????

sanman000719

i have also had motors that had oil prssure problems that did not grenade on the dyno

T.M.F.T

as he said in the first post he supplied the parts,it will be there fault if they didn't check bearing clearance,but what if the oil pump had a defect from factory

sanman000719

could be but wouldnt a great engine builder/shop run or test these engines before sneding them out to ensure there work?????? to cover there asses

or is most honda shops that build motors just worried about getting paid, and not the quality of there work

bads2k

Since they made you a promise they need to stand up on that but if you guys noticed low oil psi from the go then you shouldve pulled the pump out or send it back to cnc to have them fix whatever issue was causing psi to be low then nome of this may be going on. Regardless they owe you that promise they made.

Are you logging oil psi? If so what did the passes look like on oil psi?

sanman000719

Since they made you a promise they need to stand up on that

correct

mikesrex

not trying to be an ***, but if you have low oil pressure wouldn't it be a better idea to tear the motor down and figure out what is going on before you sling a rod out of the motor while running it? it's a pain in the ***... but it sure is a hell of a lot better to take a working motor out with a minor problem so you can fix it than a motor that has been blown up.

GoldLudeRay

recentally had an issue with an evo from map performormance on a build that would of made huge power but had main bearing issues from the get go....


so i feel ya good luck

T.M.F.T

from the info,its the block they built and not the entire engine.i am not trying to defend cnc,but as a mechanic i have seen alot

josh green

For the record I'm not waiting on a block from cnc, just stating that I have also been waiting on stuff. It happens more than it should. Idk if shops take on more work than they can handle or if the people really are that shady.

Twenty47

hard to blame stuff like that on the builder but if they promised you another sleeved block then they should come through..

0BRMS

I don't even know where to begin with my experience with Cnc.. I'll scratch the surface real quick..

1. Worse communication I've ever seen, & when i did, i was lied to over & over.
2. The original block i sent, they called &.said they needed to swap me because the tooling hurt the deck on my original block during sleeving. (Once i got the block that id never seen, i knew they wanted rid of it)
3. Carelessness - Block deck was nicked up, coated pistons scratched, so called polished crankshaft blems all over. Bottom of block scuffed etc.
4. I told them to align hone my block to my specs, told me it didn't need it, even after i told them to, got the block back & the mains were over 2 thou tight, & out of round.

Had to have it re decked & properly align honed, & bored & honed cause the bore was egg shaped!

It took 3 months to get my back up block back (with no service done) due to the first complication.

I assemble all mine, & WILL NEVER CONTACT THEM AGAIN.

I know 2 other guys that have been lied to over& over to.

I've done this for 10+ years & ive seen, low, but not this.

& for Jj, they told me they would warranty any blocks they sleeve/build & i tune.
(i had two others built there complete for street cars do to my time restraints, and
the main bores were off in them) Go figure.

Hopefully you'll get satisfaction.

Nailclipper

Wow, is all i can say. I know most would like to keep it local or whatever, but companies like golden eagle have the rep they do for a reason. More power to the little guys, but a company is more than just a product. Its a shame this still happens.

01DC4

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Wow i was actually thinking about sending a block out to them for cleaning and sleeving, not now.

JJsMotorsports

iTrader: (1)

I wounder why they haven't responded to this thread?

I'm not crying about the motor.....it blew ......I'll learn, I'll live,

I just want them todo as we agreed on!

zakura R

It suck to hear that man I know what it feel it happens to me last year 8k down the drain hope u address the problem. By any chance u know what was the clearance on the main and rods ?? And how the bearing looks ? Post some pics

jskillzva

My question is why didnt you have T1 build it as well as tune it?

85mmek9

Sorry about you poor experience max but I would of just had Tony or his guys do your motors from now on...

DDTECH

Sorry for your lost JJ... Really am.

Its a shame, i dont think its the fact that it slung the rod, i think its more or less the fact they wont back up what they agreed with you. I think thats something that everyone here is failing to see.

On another note, 65psi @ wot is entirely too low... Infact, after a few pulls, i probably would have stopped. The motor was obviously clearenced or assembled wrong at some point to have that low of oil pressure. In any case, i highly doubt it had anything to do with the tune and I hope it works out for you. Its sad to see shops so big now, forgetting where they actually came from.

Johnny_Ek

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Damn good luck a lot of "good shops" are taking ***** they get your money then when something goes wrong they wipe there feet all over you and act like its your fault.

tony1

FWIW, we made 3 pulls on the dyno. The car has been tuned, this was just a quick check to make sure all was well with the new setup. While 65psi is definitely low, it didn't stand out as a huge problem. Looking at the track logs after the fact though it went down hill quickly.

Max isn't asking for all of the damage to be covered, this is racing, everyone knows that. The issue is that they agreed on something and he's getting the runaround. He could push further on the fact that the motor wasn't put together right but he's not, just doesn't want to get dicked around. Seems pretty understandable...