ok jw here what everyone thinks 200 civic si wit s jdm gsr swap..right now i got skunk2 intake manifold ...cai...dc ss 4-1 ..greaddy evo....plugs..wires...cam gears...short shifter ...act street/strip clutch..what u think times would be runniing on street tires w/b16 tranny and si stock ecu....and second what more u think i need to hit 12.99 on slicks?

 

low 14's maybe break high high 13's with slicks

 

I would say high to mid 14's driven right.

 

ur not goin to hit anywhere near 12s. low to mid 14s.

 

low-mid 14's....not going to touch 13's

steve

 

i say mid to high 14's
my friend ran a 15.2 with close to the same setup as you.

 

no 13s for you. Mine is supercharged and weighs 1990 lbs and doesnt run 12s.

 

High 14's

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SikCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok jw here what everyone thinks 200 civic si wit s jdm gsr swap..right now i got skunk2 intake manifold ...cai...dc ss 4-1 ..greaddy evo....plugs..wires...cam gears...short shifter ...act street/strip clutch..what u think times would be runniing on street tires w/b16 tranny and si stock ecu....and second what more u think i need to hit 12.99 on slicks?</TD></TR></TABLE>

spell check anyone?
Anyways, yeah i say high 14's low 15's since you didnt put anything about adding cams. THat bitch is heavy y0!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FULLTHROTTLE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no 13s for you. Mine is supercharged and weighs 1990 lbs and doesnt run 12s. </TD></TR></TABLE>

How the hell did you get a 2k Si to only 1990lbs? Mines still bulky, at least 2600lbs and supercharged I pulled a best time of 12.42 just last week.

 

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How the hell did you get a 2k Si to only 1990lbs? Mines still bulky, at least 2600lbs and supercharged I pulled a best time of 12.42 just last week.</TD></TR></TABLE>

My car was totalled in an accident. I bought it and began fixing the frame and sheet metal. I turned it into my project drag car so it has nothing in it unless it is required for safety or makes it go fast. It is still a bone stock B16 internally too BTW. I wish my car had your HP numbers. Shed be a fast bish. http://www.highaltitudeimports...oject

here is how it started. I try to keep updates on the car.

I like your sig, nice numbers. My MPH is the same as yours but Im .7 sec slower.

 

mid 14's, your adding what, 25 horses and like 10lbs of torque to a car that runs bone stock mid to high 15's. Don't expect a huge difference.

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a lot more mods. Depending on what route you want to go, forced induction or all motor.

 

ok just a couple things to add...b16 2 jdm gsr = 20hp plus the rest of my mods so not 25 hp...next i know a guy running 12s all motor in a full street 2000 civic si..hmm so i guess it is possible.....im going all motor daily driver ..wit ac and ps and most of interior running 12s on slicks...right now as is the car shoudl run mid 14s-hi 13s...this is a guess but i haven't got it out there yet so....nobody really gave me ne advice on the more mods u guys think im gonna need and what products like skunk2 cams verse jun cams....that kinda stuff i just want opionions

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SikCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok just a couple things to add...b16 2 jdm gsr = 20hp plus the rest of my mods so not 25 hp...next i know a guy running 12s all motor in a full street 2000 civic si..hmm so i guess it is possible.....im going all motor daily driver ..wit ac and ps and most of interior running 12s on slicks...right now as is the car shoudl run mid 14s-hi 13s...this is a guess but i haven't got it out there yet so....nobody really gave me ne advice on the more mods u guys think im gonna need and what products like skunk2 cams verse jun cams....that kinda stuff i just want opionions
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talk to J&DMOTORSPORTS.......he has a 12 sec all motor street driven Si.....

 

The rest of your mods includes 13:1 compression, some lumpy cams, a Hondata and a 50 shot of nitrous right? Then yea you MIGHT get 12's on slicks.

I dont think anyone is trying to say it cant be done because people have already done it. What we are trying to say is, you need a LOT more than just a GSR swap, tuning and slicks to run 12's. If it were that easy, I would have pulled 12's three years ago. (Well not quite, I didnt get my own set of slicks until this spring.)

A realistic goal for a street trim 2kSi that is all motor is mid-low 14's on slicks if its mostly stock and mabee mid 13's if its somewhat built. Even the most insane tuned all motor setups in newer Si's are just eeking 12's and i'm quite sure they have a lot more work than you think in them.

 

ok first 50 shot of NOS...thats not all motor...its all motor engine...so wait no thats not gonna work. i talked to that guy @ J&D Motorsports on the phone but since theni haven't got a hold of him i sent him an e-mail...tryied msgs but whatever....i never said that wit a gsr and tuning and hondata that i was gonna....im still tryin to fig. out what i need to do 2 get 2 12s on slicks...and bout the realistic goal...**** that dude...i said 12s its gonna happen car should be in low 14s now and i haven't done much...and it is gonna be one of the most insane Si's out there and i know they have more work i need what they got then im good 2 go

 

So wait let me get this straight. 2000 Civic Si with a 180hp JDM GSR swap with basic bolt ons? You may get 170+ to the wheels tuned out of that thing wtih a hondata. You will hit low 14's on slicks if you can drive your *** off. If you wanna hit 12's, hardcore weight reduction (pretty much a shell) and I would go 1.9L-2.0L sleeved bored, big cams stage 3 minimum, hondata, axles, clutch, big slicks and make sure you can drive and with around 220ish atleast you "should" be able to break a 12.99. Best thing to do is set low goals. Everyone always sits here and says "oh yeah should go this..." and wind up being .5-1sec slower. We can bench race all day, but instead of "wondering" how bout you go hit your local 1320 let us know, we can critique your driving based on times, see what you could improve to the way it runs now and go from there.

 

well i the guy @ J&D motorsports is running 12.8 full street nothign striped...so just some lil info and i agree wit the track thing so we will see...i try to make it there soon

 

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Just really off the top of my head, b16a2 = 160 hp, B18C (jdm gsr) 178 hp, that is 18 hp, then add: skunk2 intake manifold ...cai...dc ss 4-1 ..greaddy evo.... plugs.. wires... cam gears, that should be in the area of 25-35 hp increase from your bone stock si motor. Even still, not a big difference if your goal is 12's.
Also in your original post, you never stated if you wanted to do this with all motor, or forced induction. As I said before, its a good goal, but its going to require ripping the motor, block and head and replacing them with quality parts to get in that area. good luck with the project.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ClubSiRacer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The rest of your mods includes 13:1 compression, some lumpy cams, a Hondata and a 50 shot of nitrous right? Then yea you MIGHT get 12's on slicks.

I dont think anyone is trying to say it cant be done because people have already done it. What we are trying to say is, you need a LOT more than just a GSR swap, tuning and slicks to run 12's. If it were that easy, I would have pulled 12's three years ago. (Well not quite, I didnt get my own set of slicks until this spring.)

A realistic goal for a street trim 2kSi that is all motor is mid-low 14's on slicks if its mostly stock and mabee mid 13's if its somewhat built. Even the most insane tuned all motor setups in newer Si's are just eeking 12's and i'm quite sure they have a lot more work than you think in them.</TD></TR></TABLE>

we ran 12.9 on street tires
and 12.4 on slicks
all motor no NOS
and its not 13to 1
here are the vids
http://www.hondaraceengines.co...9.mpg

http://www.hondaraceengines.co...i.mpg

 

what have u guyz done to the engine...and how much stripin of the car did u do?

 

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The car is 2500 with driver
The engine just a Ls Vtec
12.5 to 1 big cams
ported head
stock 60mm TB
DC header
makes pretty good power

Usally there is a turbo enginein the car
but its not done yet
500 Hp was too much for the stock block
so were doing a few sleeved Botoms for it
seeeya

 

where did u get the head ported ...how much was it and what kinda cams u got?...also what is the header dc ss 4-1? or the 4-1 race?

 

Look @ my sig

http://www.hondaraceengines.com is my company
was a 2.5 DC header 4to 1 the cheap one
I ported the head I used too port Nascar
and IRL and prostock units

 

i looked at the website before it informational but i dunno each thing u have....and im still wonderin on the cams and the header is stainless right and not the full race system? r u running stock pistons? and rods?