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Viper 5901 Wiring Problems, 2000 Civic Si

Old 03-18-2010, 11:25 PM
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Default Viper 5901 Wiring Problems, 2000 Civic Si

I've installed a Viper 791xv and a 5900 into a Civic before, but this one is giving me some problems. I understood how the old systems worked, but they've changed quite a few things. I'm pretty sure it's overly complicated and I'll be removing a lot of wires.

Hopefully someone can shed some light on this so I can finish the install and go home before school starts again.

I'll break down the list so y'all can tell me where I'm wrong. Red is what I think I should remove, Blue is what I don't know what to do with, and Green is a random question.

H1 HARNESS
H1/1__Red/White______200mA Aux/Trunk Output_______________Left for Actuator at a later date
H1/2__Red___________12VDC Constant Input__________________Grey Output from Backup Battery
H1/3__Brown_________Siren Output__________________________Red Wire on Siren
H1/4__White/Brown____Parking Isolation Wire (87a Onboard Relay)
H1/5__Black__________Chassis Ground________________________Obvious
H1/6__Violet__________(+) Door Trigger Input
H1/7__Blue___________Trunk Pin/Instant Trigger Input___________Obvious
H1/8__Green__________(-) Door Trigger Input__________________Obvious
H1/9__Black/White_____200mA Dome Light Supervision Output_____Obvious
H1/10_White/Blue______Remote Start/Turbo Timer Activation Output
H1/11_White__________Parking Light Output____________________Obvious
H1/12_Orange_________500mA Ground When Armed Output_______Left for Window Module at a later date

H2 HARNESS
H2/1__Green/Black_____200mA OEM Alarm Disarm Output
H2/2__Orange/Black____200mA Aux 4 Output
H2/3__Green/White_____200mA OEM Alarm Arm Output
H2/4__Violet/Black_____200mA Aux 2 Output
H2/5__White/Black_____200mA Aux 3 Output
H2/6__White/Violet_____200mA Aux 1 Output________Left for Window Module at a later date
H2/7__Grey/Black______Diesel Wait To Start Input
H2/8__Brown/Black_____200mA Horn Honk Output
H2/9__Violet/White_____Tachometer Input______________________Obvious
H2/10_Dark Blue_______200mA Status Output___________________Wire on Clutch Pedal
H2/11_Pink/White______200mA Flex Relay Control Output
H2/12_Orange_________200mA Accessory Output
H2/13_Purple__________200mA Starter Output
H2/14_Pink____________200mA Ignition 1 Output
H2/15_Grey___________Hood Pin Input________________________Obvious
H2/16_Blue/White______200mA 2nd Status/Rear Defogger Output___Obvious
H2/17_Brown__________Brake Shutdown Input__________________Obvious
H2/18_Black/White_____Neutral Safety Input____________________Obvious

H3 HARNESS
H3/1__Pink___________Ignition 1 Input/Output__________________Ignition Wire
H3/2__Red/White______Flex Relay Input
H3/3__Orange_________Accessory Output______________________Climate Control
H3/4__Violet__________Starter Output (Car Side)________________Starter Wire Car Side
H3/5__Green__________Starter Input (Key Side)_________________Starter Wire Key Side
H3/6__Red____________Ignition 1 Input
H3/7__Pink/White______(30) Flex Relay Output
H3/8__Pink/Black______(87a) Flex Relay Input
H3/9__Red/Black_______Accessory/Starter Relay Input

So obviously, the flex relay thing is throwing me off. I'm sure the remote start harness needs more wires hooked up...just not sure where.

As for the random questions...I plan on installing a 530t and an actuator for the trunk later on...are the wires I need labeled properly for this to happen?

Also, do I need any of the Aux outputs besides 1 for the window module? I don't plan on adding anything other than the 530t and trunk pop.

Also, does anyone know why they changed the connectors on this model? The alarm does not match the Installation Manual I have...the connectors are different but all the wires are there except the switch from a priority lock option to another Aux. Just another thing throwing me off on this.

Thanks in advance for any help. I wasn't expecting any problems from this and it looks like I was wrong

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Its the same as the 791. Don't worry about the flex. You do not need it. Only thing you need is a relay to interupt the back up battery output doing remote start. If not. If you remote start the car while it is armed. It will not start and will set the alarm off. Or if you have it on a five speed. It will set the alarm off and take the car out of reservation mode.
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H1 HARNESS
H1/1__Red/White______200mA Aux/Trunk Output_______________Left for Actuator at a later date
H1/2__Red___________12VDC Constant Input__________________Grey Output from Backup Battery
H1/3__Brown_________Siren Output__________________________Red Wire on Siren
H1/4__White/Brown____Parking Isolation Wire (87a Onboard Relay)
H1/5__Black__________Chassis Ground________________________Obvious
H1/6__Violet__________(+) Door Trigger Input
H1/7__Blue___________Trunk Pin/Instant Trigger Input___________Obvious
H1/8__Green__________(-) Door Trigger Input__________________Obvious
H1/9__Black/White_____200mA Dome Light Supervision Output_____Obvious
H1/10_White/Blue______Remote Start/Turbo Timer Activation Output
H1/11_White__________Parking Light Output____________________Obvious
H1/12_Orange_________500mA Ground When Armed Output_______Left for Window Module at a later date

H2 HARNESS
H2/1__Green/Black_____200mA OEM Alarm Disarm Output
H2/2__Orange/Black____200mA Aux 4 Output________Left but unused
H2/3__Green/White_____200mA OEM Alarm Arm Output
H2/4__Violet/Black_____200mA Aux 2 Output________Left but unused
H2/5__White/Black_____200mA Aux 3 Output________Left but unused
H2/6__White/Violet_____200mA Aux 1 Output________Left for Window Module at a later date
H2/7__Grey/Black______Diesel Wait To Start Input
H2/8__Brown/Black_____200mA Horn Honk Output
H2/9__Violet/White_____Tachometer Input______________________Obvious
H2/10_Dark Blue_______200mA Status Output
H2/11_Pink/White______200mA Flex Relay Control Output
H2/12_Orange_________200mA Accessory Output
H2/13_Purple__________200mA Starter Output
H2/14_Pink____________200mA Ignition 1 Output
H2/15_Grey___________Hood Pin Input________________________Obvious
H2/16_Blue/White______200mA 2nd Status/Rear Defogger Output
H2/17_Brown__________Brake Shutdown Input__________________Obvious
H2/18_Black/White_____Neutral Safety Input____________________Obvious

H3 HARNESS
H3/1__Pink___________Ignition 1 Input/Output__________________Ignition Wire
H3/2__Red/White______Flex Relay Input
H3/3__Orange_________Accessory Output______________________Climate Control
H3/4__Violet__________Starter Output (Car Side)________________Starter Wire Car Side
H3/5__Green__________Starter Input (Key Side)_________________Starter Wire Key Side
H3/6__Red____________Ignition 1 Input_______________________12v Constant
H3/7__Pink/White______(30) Flex Relay Output
H3/8__Pink/Black______(87a) Flex Relay Input
H3/9__Red/Black_______Accessory/Starter Relay Input____________12v Constant


This is how I wired everything up. Everything seems to be working except the remote start. It tries to turn over but immediately sets off the alarm. Which leads me to...

Originally Posted by wrx-killer-Sti-eater View Post
Its the same as the 791. Don't worry about the flex. You do not need it. Only thing you need is a relay to interupt the back up battery output doing remote start. If not. If you remote start the car while it is armed. It will not start and will set the alarm off. Or if you have it on a five speed. It will set the alarm off and take the car out of reservation mode.
How exactly do I need to wire this relay? Somebody please help...I need to wrap this up tomorrow so I can head back home for school on Monday.


EDIT: For clarity, Red means I removed it.

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I don't see a dei 520t which you should have. So you do not need a relay. You need to make sure you tagged your trigger sources correctly. What does the remote say when the alarm goes off during remote start?
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