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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 09:40 PM
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i havent figured out where to put them exactly but i have a general idea on the door
right now i have only my front speakers using my radio unit and my back use the amp
should i use my rear unused radio unit wires for the tweeters for the front?
i think my jvc unit is designed to put more bass into the back.

is there any other wire design i should do?

is my current set-up (with unused rear wires) messing up my radio because of the ohms?
if i daisy chain off my front speakers will that mess up the ohms or set it right?
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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 09:43 PM
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i think i might have just solved my problem
1: use front wires for tweeters
2: use back wires for "more bass" for my fronts

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i feel like im on crack. please bear with me...
the radio shoots 18 rms per channel...
not looking for anything expensive ebay
im not looking for loud highs, will this give the highs my speaker covers mask?
what kind of wattage/ impedance am i looking for for the best/easiest set up

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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 04:01 PM
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 07:58 PM
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Ok, first off your back wires arent going to give you any more base then your front wires. Unless your backwires are hooked to the amp. To wire up your tweeters, an easy way to do it is to tap in to your front speaker wires, postitive to positive negative to negative, but I would suggest buying base blockers for your tweeters, you can get em for like 6.99 a pair or somthing like that. they are cheep. You just wire them into the positive wire on the tweeters. The bass blockers will protect your tweater, because even though its not much, your front speakers are amped thru the amp in your head unit, and you dont wanna blow your tweets. Good luck
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 08:20 PM
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bass blocker = a crossover?
most tweeters i see come with them

and if i wire tweeters off the regular speaker wires, wont that change the impedance and mess up the power draw from the radio?
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 08:36 PM
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no baseblockers, are not crossovers, crossovers are a little box that seperate mids from highs. Base blockers are just the inexpensive way to do it its kind of like a tube shaped filiter with one wire on each side. No it wont mess up power draw. If you want to play it safe you can run wire all the way to the back spearkr wires, but still use base blockers, bcause if your back speaker wires are still tied into thehead unit, then they will be amped off of teh radios internal amp, and that could blow your tweeters.
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 09:34 PM
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hmm... right now the wires leading to the rear are just sitting there unused.
i have no plan to use them but they are still plugged into the radio.

to understand something:
running only the front speakers and running the tweeters off of those lines with base blockers is a safe setup?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RickyBizee &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Base blockers are just the inexpensive way to do it</TD></TR></TABLE>
(ill probably just buy high-pass crossovers if they do the same task)

to do it right because ill get paranoid:
ill rerun rear output wires for my fronts, and use the existing front wires for the tweeters who will be on crossovers

only thing left:
for a 100-200 watt tweeter will 50 be too underpowered?
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 07:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RickyBizee &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no baseblockers, are not crossovers, crossovers are a little box that seperate mids from highs. </TD></TR></TABLE> NOT.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dafuzzbudd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hmm... right now the wires leading to the rear are just sitting there unused.
i have no plan to use them but they are still plugged into the radio.

to understand something:
running only the front speakers and running the tweeters off of those lines with base blockers is a safe setup?

(ill probably just buy high-pass crossovers if they do the same task)

to do it right because ill get paranoid:
ill rerun rear output wires for my fronts, and use the existing front wires for the tweeters who will be on crossovers

only thing left:
for a 100-200 watt tweeter will 50 be too underpowered?
</TD></TR></TABLE> As you said when buying just a set of tweeters you will normaly get x-overs, [also called bass blockers or filters] there are high-pass x-overs, band-pass x-overs and low-pass x-overs, [bass blockers are high-pass x-overs].

As long as the tweeters have a proper x-over you can drive them with the HUs rear outputs or parallel them with the front speakers, [yes it will "drop" the impedance that the HUs front speaker outputs "see"] I have yet to install a HU that was not stable at 2 ohms, but then again you have the unused rear outputs

100W-200W tweeters??????

50W will be the HUs max power, what is the make and model of the HU?

With the above said, adding a second set of tweeters, [assuming door speakers are coax] more likely then not, will have a detrimental effect on SQ. 94
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 09:52 PM
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i gained an interest in tweeters because i realized the door speaker grills block a noticable amount of my highs. the speakers are:
http://cgi.ebay.com/LIGHTNING-...wItem

im basically looking for any tweeter pair below $35:
http://cgi.ebay.com/LANZAR-TWE...wItem

if i mount them low would that be better for sound quality? i only want a very small increase
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 06:56 AM
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I would wire them up first and use double sided tape and place then on diff. places on the doors and install them where you get the best sound, as close to the other tweeters should sound the best. 94

PS.... maybe a component set would be a better bet.
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 11:19 AM
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the tape thing is a good idea,
if i cant find a good placement then components it is
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 09:46 PM
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i was messing around covering my tweeter and i couldnt tell a difference in my highs with my finger over my tweeter vs it not covering it
the midrange ...tweeter thing... i could def. tell the dif.

i have cheap lightning audio's but they make me happy.

is it possible to... take it off and relocate it outside the woofer..?
i guess make it a component ghetto style.
probably soemthing i shouldnt f..uck with but just an idea
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Old Nov 18, 2006 | 07:48 AM
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Not sure about the L/A speakers, but some 2way speakers have the option of removing the tweeter for relocation, but I would be surprised if you could do that to your L/A speakers.
If it made no diff when you covered the tweeter then maybe they are blown and that would be why you can't hear the highs like you want to, maybe a better bet, [then adding tweeters] is to replace the whole speaker, with a better set or as mentioned before a component set, I would also amp the front speakers and use the HU to drive the rear speakers. 94
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Old Nov 18, 2006 | 01:59 PM
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will the speaker cover off i instantley noticed a better sound
even if the tweeters arent working, the midranges do the job

right now im ghetto stylin it with no speaker covers and the sound is fine.
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 08:23 PM
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i got these 150rms tweeters
is there anyway to lower the power to the speaker?
my first guess are resistors but probably not possible
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 08:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dafuzzbudd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i got these 150rms tweeters
is there anyway to lower the power to the speaker?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Where are you getting the 150watts from?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dafuzzbudd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the radio shoots 18 rms per channel...</TD></TR></TABLE>

The speakers only receive the power that you feed them.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is there anyway to lower the power to the speaker?
my first guess are resistors but probably not possible</TD></TR></TABLE>

And yes, using resistors would lower the power.
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 07:27 PM
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i know cause they're 150 does not mean they're getting 150,
from my head unit they're getting 18...
so what's a good resistor to get?

these things are freaking powerful,
i got themghetto styled in the bottom door pockets and they're loud
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 05:54 AM
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so what's a good resistor to get?
Resistor for what? 94
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 09:15 AM
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well the tweeters
i think i got them in a good position

the right one sounds weaker then the left.
ill have to check my wiring at the radio
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