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Old Oct 19, 2002 | 11:28 PM
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ok, have I been living under a rock? What exactly is auto loc??? And can someone explain the other options available beyond a basic alarm system? Thanks, I'm an amateur at this owning-a-nice-car stuff...
::gettin all paranoid::
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Old Oct 20, 2002 | 01:26 AM
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ok, have I been living under a rock? What exactly is auto loc??? And can someone explain the other options available beyond a basic alarm system? Thanks, I'm an amateur at this owning-a-nice-car stuff...
::gettin all paranoid::
http://www.autolock.com/
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Old Oct 20, 2002 | 09:50 PM
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damn i gotta get another autolock now one for my gas & clutch...to prevent ure ride being towed just turn ure wheel all the way to the left or right...so it'll jes go in circles..haha...what else..hmmmm..yea doode dats bout it...watch out for those thieves see em' blast em w/a strap!klick klick bOO-Yah!!!!!!!
they have a device that bolts under neath the tires. basically it hugs the tire, and has 2 ball joints, so the car can be rolled out of the spot. they either than put on large wheeled huggers, or they turn the wheels by ****** with the steering. Had a friend park his car in a compact space, 2 cars next to him, cut his wheels, and a light poe in front of him. the school had him towed within 2 hours (he didn't have a parking sticker), sucked for him
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Old Oct 24, 2002 | 11:31 AM
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Default Re: stealing a car (GSRaCeRbOI)

Every little layer counts.

Relocate power door lock switches to inside the cabin (Preferrably out of sight)

Replace door handle trim panel with one that does not have power locks.

Disable the manual unlock switch on all doors (by removing the connecting rod). Instead install a 2-color LED to let you know if you are locked or unlocked. (This will help prevent slim-jim attacks)

Install an aluminum protector above the locking mechanism in the doors to also protect against slim jims. (Cheap maleable aluminum rods at hardware store)

Now the theif has to smash and climb-in, instead of smash and unlock.
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Old Oct 25, 2002 | 07:43 AM
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Default Re: stealing a car (WOTTEG)

Every little layer counts.

Relocate power door lock switches to inside the cabin (Preferrably out of sight)

Replace door handle trim panel with one that does not have power locks.

Disable the manual unlock switch on all doors (by removing the connecting rod). Instead install a 2-color LED to let you know if you are locked or unlocked. (This will help prevent slim-jim attacks)

Install an aluminum protector above the locking mechanism in the doors to also protect against slim jims. (Cheap maleable aluminum rods at hardware store)

Now the theif has to smash and climb-in, instead of smash and unlock.
Dang. Sounds good. My friend takes his ECU w/ him and he's got those APC cylindrical key locks installed. Dunno if those help much?!?!
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Old Oct 25, 2002 | 10:03 AM
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Those cylindrical locks, also called cam locks are good for people who are trying to breaking in by picking or breaking you locks. That will only make them break a window instead though....It does help a bit cause a couple of guys I know would walk around lots and try their keys on every car that was like theirs, sometime it would workk and they would just take it. One of my friends had a 97 Civic 4 door and another friend had a 98 4 door, they could unlock and start exach others car with their own key and the key cuts were tottally different. Like someone else mentioned though, every layer helps.
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Old Oct 25, 2002 | 04:28 PM
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they all sounds like good ideas does any body else have any parts that they take out frequently to prevent there car from being stolen.
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Old Oct 26, 2002 | 06:00 PM
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regardless of what you take out..someone will notice you doing it everytime after surveying your car and your wasted hours will be worthless quick.

Instead, focusing on layering and the "killing" of critical components will do just as good a job as taking your ecu, engine or tranny with you every time you leave

-Rage
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Old Oct 26, 2002 | 06:05 PM
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buy a ford... that should solve ur theivin probs...
lol
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Old Oct 26, 2002 | 09:11 PM
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someone around here up at school had a universal honda key and TONS of hondas were getting stolen and stripped. One of my buddies civics got taken for a ride and moved into another parking lot...didnt make sense why they didnt take it..and just moved it..must have gotten scared of a campus cop..but there were no signs of forced entry...
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Old Oct 27, 2002 | 01:33 AM
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....the "killing" of critical components will do just as good a job as taking your ecu, engine or tranny with you every time you leave
What components would you suggest "killing"??? I'm thinking fuel pump? Are there any other important parts I could put a hidden switch on??
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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 10:09 AM
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A car alarm will stop if the car is tilted at a 45 degree angle
I think you saw the movie Twins to many times.
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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 10:22 AM
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What components would you suggest "killing"??? I'm thinking fuel pump? Are there any other important parts I could put a hidden switch on??

This has been covered before:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=314949




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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 12:52 PM
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Today a customer called me to tell me someone tried to steal her 99 Civic Si. She was very paranoid when she bought the car, she already had 2 cars stolen, (Gotta love Jersey) and wanted as much protection as possible. We installed a Code Alarm New York at the time, european spec alarm and the key is the install. I can't tell you how many times I've seen the Viper brain strapped to the column and the ignition wiring done at the fuse block or plugged into the accessory ports Honda provides.

Anyway, they centerpunched a window then pretty much tore the fuse box out with all ignition wiring. They couldn't start the car and pushed it down the street where they stole the sub box and amp rack mounted in the trunk. That cost them some skin and blood. They tried to get the head unit but instead of using he cheesy plastic snap in kit, we bolted the head unit to the factory metal brackets.

The end result was about $1000.00 in theft and damages, they didn't get the car and the alarm still works.

The reason is it's all in the install. If you buy th alarm on sale at the chain store for $139, that is all the protection you can expect to get. They will do it fast, make it work and pull in the next one. Buy your security carefully, know the difference between Normally open and Normally Closed disables, be creative, We will usually put a starter kill from a basic alarm on the nuetral safety, fuel pump or clutch pedal switches. Look for any sign that an alarm was even installed. It should be invisible to even you.

A Honda is one of the easiest cars to steal, IF you really want to protect it, do it right, the world doesn't need any more useless noisemakers that a real car theif will disable in under 10 seconds.
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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 06:14 PM
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Default Re: stealing a car (Impossible Bill)

so true
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Old Oct 30, 2002 | 03:54 PM
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"to prevent ure ride being towed just turn ure wheel all the way to the left or right"

Hahaha... go sit in your car and do this:

Lock your steering wheel and pretend you are a thief that just broke into the car (I don't care how you pretend you got in the car - broke window, lifted the door handle, removed door trim, slim jim, bent door - doesn't matter, this is just your imaginition).

So now what do you do?

Let's say you locked it to the left, well, grab the steering wheel and put all your weight on the RIGHT side of the wheel and jerk and bounce the wheel as hard as you can to force it to turn right. You hear that loud metalic SNAP? You just broke the steernign lock! YAY YOU!

There is only one way to not have your car stolen. All you have to do is weld the car to the side of a metal beam for a large building and remove your entire suspension so the car lays flat on the ground. Not only would the theif need to de-weld your car from the building , but they also have to find a forklift and a set of wheels.... oh - and all this while your whimpy siren is going off.
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 09:28 PM
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get a quick release steering wheel!
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Old Nov 1, 2002 | 06:51 AM
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Where can you buy one of those wheel boots that the cops use? I had a Toyota P/U stolen and stripped, when I got my new one, I learned from the guys that did the lift, how easy it was to take the shifter off, since they had to weld an extension on. You would just push a plastic disc around the base of the shifter down and rotate it, then pull the whole shifter out. I would do this if I parked in a shady area or if I was going to be away from the car for a while. Good luck trying to drive a car with no shifter and the tranny in 4th or R.
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Old Nov 1, 2002 | 10:07 PM
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Like a bunch of people said, if they want it bad enough they will get it.
put a boot on your wheel
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Old Nov 4, 2002 | 01:05 PM
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i parked my teg in a parking structure that never really got empty and in front of a parking attendent, and it still got jacked..
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 12:48 PM
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 01:01 PM
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i parked my teg in a parking structure that never really got empty and in front of a parking attendent, and it still got jacked..
maybe the attendant was in on it.. thats not uncommon
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 08:32 PM
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A hidden battery for the alarm will stop most thieves, it takes too much time to trace it down to stop it.
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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 02:40 PM
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its always parked in a over seas shipping cointaner with 3 lock bulks and stored in my garage with a adt house alarm. is my car safe? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emdgust.gif" BORDER="0">
Oh yeah? Ill just drive upto your house with a flatbed hauler and your car will be gone before you know what happened

No im not a theif, full time or "once a year" - want some advice? Stop looking for your car to get stolen. Go spend $100 on an alarm, its gonna get stolen... go spend $2000 on an alarm, guess what? Its still gonna get stolen. One thing people forget to talk about is whats going to happen your car when a theif takes it.

First they look and watch your car... could be for 30 seconds, could be for 30 days if need be - all depends on if its worth it to the theif or not. When they go to take it - the more "resistance" they have, the more PISSED OFF an amateur theif will become... This anger will turn into abuse to your car. If he has to fight a fire breathing dragon and 16 midgets inside your car with wooden paddles with glass glued to the ends of it - your gonna know it when you get your car back when everything is slashed and burned and your motor and tranny are toast... that is if you ever get it back.

Get a vehicle tracking system, like lojack - and an alarm with an LCD pager system that will show you whats going on. If its just a bump to the door, or if the window is smashed, the hood popped and the car is now running and you better run the hell out there to get a description...



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Old Nov 8, 2002 | 06:42 AM
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someone around here up at school had a universal honda key and TONS of hondas were getting stolen and stripped.
that is scary.
I wonder what number key is the master key, or if the person just had a lot of keys. honda only has at most 9999 keys u know, so ur key opens about 50 other cars.
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