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Old Jun 17, 2003 | 01:50 PM
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This is about vehicle security that everyone should know. If you¡¯re interested in making your car harder to get tampered with or harder to steal, read on.

There are numerous ways to secure your vehicle and here¡¯s some¡¦

Alarms can¡¯t stop a skilled car thief but it can slow them down. Get a high quality alarm system! If there was two Civics parked in a dark secluded area and one had a flashing LED and the other didn¡¯t, guess which one the thief would break into? I know Viper alarms so I¡¯ll use it as reference. Make sure it¡¯s a reputable brand with good tech support and nationwide servicing available. If you lose a transmitter for a generic alarm, you may never find a replacement again. If there¡¯s technical questions that may arise, no one may be there to help.

Get a backup siren like the DEI 515R. Most thieves will go straight for the siren and disconnect it. The backup siren will keep ringing until you manually turn it off with the provided barrel lock key. It works just like a normal siren but also gets set off if 1)the siren wires get cut 2)battery is disconnected 3)alarm brain is disconnected. Imagine if you¡¯re a thief and you popped the hood of a car and the alarm starts to ring so you find the siren and you cut it but it keeps going off. You¡¯d be like WTF!? You¡¯d probably try to look for a way to disable it for like 15 secs and just bail. Backup sirens are a great way to buy you time.

The Club and other steering wheel locks and pedal locks are great and if you¡¯re interested in using them, by all means do so because just like an alarm, this will buy you time and hopefully make him move on.

Kill switches are great to have and work well. Fuel cut off and starter disable seems to be the most popular. A hidden bypass switch is usually used for these kill switches. Some people use existing buttons such as, holding onto high beams while starting the car, pushing in the cigarette lighter while starting, or hold the window roll button while starting. You can be creative and do your own thing. Just make sure that you get this stuff done by a professional. Also, for security, concealment is extremely important. Make sure they route the wires and make connections where it¡¯s not detectable.

Stuff you can do on your own for added security¡¦

One of the most popular ways to initiate a burglary on a Honda is by reaching up, under the grill, grabbing the hood latch cable and giving it a good yank. This pops open a lot of hoods on a lot of different Hondas and Acuras. You can try it yourself. To prevent this, get some strong zip-ties and strap the cable to the radiator support by the latch. Don't over tighten near the latch because this may alter the function of the hood release. Make couple good ties. Most people can¡¯t get a good grip on the cable therefore it¡¯ll be extra difficult to yank loose.

One of the most popular ways of entering the vehicle w/o actually breaking the glass is by using a wedge on the window frame. The wedge is usually a plastic piece shaped like a pie that they use to give them better access to reaching in and unlocking the doors. You can make it more difficult for them to unlock the doors (especially if you have an unlock switch that sticks out like a lever) by actually disconnecting the unlock switch itself. This can be kind of annoying because you wouldn¡¯t be able to unlock the passenger door from the inside but a lot of people don¡¯t mind it. All you have to do is remove the plastic handle trim (Usually held on by one phillips screw. The screw may be covered with a little cap. And you probably have to slide the trim forward or backwards to release the clip) and unplug the two wired switch. Imagine the thief getting the wedge in and playing with the clothes hanger while starring over his shoulders and he finally hooks the switch and gives it a good pull and nothing happens. He¡¯ll probably try it a couple more times and just bail.

Another way of breaking into like a Honda or Acura is by going through your trunk. Thieves will use the wedge and go straight for the trunk latch if the door switch looks difficult to hook. If you don¡¯t have a lock on your trunk release latch, and you don¡¯t mind the inconvenience, maybe you¡¯ll want to disconnect the cable. This prevents a lot of systems being stolen also.

If a thief really wants your car, they¡¯ll take it. Nothings gonna stop a flatbed. Its all about buying yourself some time, maybe just enough time for you to catch him red handed. Damn, wouldn¡¯t that be great? Anyway, that¡¯s my two cents on vehicle security.


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Old Jun 17, 2003 | 02:45 PM
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good info
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Old Jun 17, 2003 | 04:38 PM
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**** man im so scared.. serious
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Old Jun 17, 2003 | 05:14 PM
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i tried the unhooking my door locks at the switch and my keyless entry stopped working. when i hooked up one door it worked so i only have one unhooked now
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 08:40 AM
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I would also add Car Cover. A locking car cover with an extra cable tied up front near the alarm will help trigger it, when the cover is pulled. Car cover not only covers up so they can't see (to prepare), but create extra attention if they have to fumble with it while stealing your car. Simply.....too much work.

It is also important to try and park facing a stop curb, wall, light post, etc so the car has to be toll from the rear. This only works when you turn the wheel and NOT put it in gear. Putting it in gear will only allow them to drag it out. With the wheels turned, the cars on the side will help keep your car in. If they must drag it out, they will damage a lot of things - unless they want a ding up car.

Lastly, if they are willing to beat all of the above, and got the gear to deal with it, and beat it in time, then they "earned" their rights to the car. Go ahead..... take it.
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Old Jun 19, 2003 | 03:14 PM
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A different way they brake into your car, is get a Spark Plug and a Hammer and you hit the plug, shattering your window and not setting off the motion dector. Make sure you get a Glass Sensor and a Tilt Sensor, to protect people from jacking your rims

a Alarm with a pager is a good investment but the range isn't as good as you think don't just relie on that.

**** Car Thevies

Great Advice.
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Old Jun 19, 2003 | 04:00 PM
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Honestly I think disconnecting you trunk and electric door looks is a waste of time. Why would you want to inconvenience yourself, it's your car? You don't need a wedge or a coat hanger only your hands. You can pull the damn windows out with your hand reach down with your other hand and do whatever you want. What is disconnecting the electric door locks going to do when reaching for the sliding lock is easier.

I think everyone spends way to much money on these type things. To each his own.
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Old Jun 19, 2003 | 06:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GoLowDrew &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would also add Car Cover. A locking car cover with an extra cable tied up front near the alarm will help trigger it, when the cover is pulled. Car cover not only covers up so they can't see (to prepare), but create extra attention if they have to fumble with it while stealing your car. Simply.....too much work.

It is also important to try and park facing a stop curb, wall, light post, etc so the car has to be toll from the rear. This only works when you turn the wheel and NOT put it in gear. Putting it in gear will only allow them to drag it out. With the wheels turned, the cars on the side will help keep your car in. If they must drag it out, they will damage a lot of things - unless they want a ding up car.

Lastly, if they are willing to beat all of the above, and got the gear to deal with it, and beat it in time, then they "earned" their rights to the car. Go ahead..... take it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

No one except the person who paid for the car "earns" the right to the car, no one.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxxtreme &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Honestly I think disconnecting you trunk and electric door looks is a waste of time. Why would you want to inconvenience yourself, it's your car? You don't need a wedge or a coat hanger only your hands. You can pull the damn windows out with your hand reach down with your other hand and do whatever you want. What is disconnecting the electric door locks going to do when reaching for the sliding lock is easier.

I think everyone spends way to much money on these type things. To each his own.</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you can put your whole hand far enough into the door with the window all the way closed, just by pulling it out, you are either anarexic, or reaching into a very bad window which isnt mounted properly.

While you reach, you will set off motion sensors, etc.
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Old Jun 19, 2003 | 07:21 PM
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The windows pull out farther than you think. I have done it a couple of time when I have locked my keys in. So no you don't need to be anorexic or need a coat hanger, only your arm and a little muscle.

Disconnecting your electric door locks and trunk release is completely ridiculous to me. You can still reach the sliding door lock with your arm.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">While you reach, you will set off motion sensors, etc.</TD></TR></TABLE> Not always their are many ways around this that I won't mention here. My point here is that disconnecting electric door locks and your trunk release does nothing to slow the thief down, it only serves to inconvenience you.

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Old Jun 20, 2003 | 05:40 AM
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I agree....why have the convenience features if you're not going to use them. I think there's a point where you have to realize that living in fear seriously hampers your ability to enjoy what you have. The best you can do is spend as much as you can afford on security and just use common sense. If you don't want your car stolen, don't buy one and ride the bus!! LOL
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Old Jun 20, 2003 | 12:58 PM
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not a intention to jack the thread, but whats your opinion of lo jack? or a lo-jack like product (GPS vehicle tracking for security reasons)?
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Old Jun 20, 2003 | 01:23 PM
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Lo-Jack is not offered where I live, but I do own a GPS tracking devise.
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Old Jun 20, 2003 | 10:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxxtreme &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Lo-Jack is not offered where I live, but I do own a GPS tracking devise.</TD></TR></TABLE>
So you believe these are worth their cost?
What company do you have and how much is service, I am looking into getting a system.
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Old Jun 21, 2003 | 07:12 AM
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Good accessories to get:

Back-up battery, hood pin switch (if car doesn't have one already). Trunk pin. Tilt sensor, such as the digital one from DEI. Glass brake is good, but prox taks it that much farther so they can't just pull the window away from the seal and reach in. The back up siren is good under the hood, as well as one of the mini sirens designed to go in the car. Those things are SO damn loud in a car it's unbelievible.

Having a pager is good, but get the GPS system from DEI and you're really good. You can control your car via a web page or phone, and can even email you.

Oh, and one last thing. Don't install the unit under the hood like a local shop around here. Not only does that make it easier to access w/o setting off the system, it also opens it up to the elements and possible earlier failure than if it were installed in the vehical somewhere. The best option is to extend the wires that come with the alarm so you can install the brain unit in a really odd and unexpected location. My old manager made a little wooden box for his that was mounted behind the trim in the trunk. You'd never know it was there if he hasn't told you. All the wires ran up to the front taped like a factory line and branched from there. All in all it looked really factory which is definantly what you want
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Old Jun 21, 2003 | 09:55 AM
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Good info. Too bad most people in here spend over thousands of $$$ on mods and accessories and buy a cheap alarm for a 1 or 2 hundered bucks. Fact is most people wont listen until they become a victim.
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Old Jun 21, 2003 | 01:21 PM
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I agree... people just don't listen until they become a victim. Couldn't have put it better myself.
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