Ravelco?
Thinking of installing this for my Integra. I have never heard of this product until about a week ago. Its hard to imagine about this whole time I knew about Honda/Acura theft, I've never heard of this.
Its $400 + tax. To me its worth it to buy it and be able to park my car without having to worry about it getting stolen. Right now I do not have an alarm or any kill switches, so to me, this seems like a good deal.
Anyone else know about more info about this Ravelco product?
www.nohotwire.com
Its $400 + tax. To me its worth it to buy it and be able to park my car without having to worry about it getting stolen. Right now I do not have an alarm or any kill switches, so to me, this seems like a good deal.
Anyone else know about more info about this Ravelco product?
www.nohotwire.com
The issue with this is that it's a visible kill switch, rather than one with tucked away wiring and a hidden base. It's "protected" by a metal wire loom to make the wires tamper-resistant. This thin piece of metal is easily cut by tin snips or similar common handtools (wire cutters?).
By 'defeating the device', the company refers to making all the necessary pin connections and driving away with the car. They do not include wiring +12 straight to the distributor/fuel pump, bump starting the car to bypass the starter, etc. This is how there are "none stolen yet", which is a blatant lie. Ask tekniq.
A thief will just give up and leave when it doesn't start!
The flaw here is that they have no reason to leave. There isn't attention being brought to them since they're under the dashboard with a closed door picking at wires. There's no siren going off, no pagers buzzing, alerting the owner and bystanders that SOMETHING IS HAPPENING. In fact, this visible kill switch leads you straight to where the OEM wires were cut, ready to be reassembled. Convenient!
In fact, to quote the Ravelco site...
"One of them responded, "Damn, we been here almost an hour. What the hell you got in that thing?"
That hour is much longer than is needed to defeat the Ravelco. Considering it gets installed in an hour which involves taking off trim, finding wires, cutting, soldering (butt connectors in Ravelco's case) taping and looming, and reassembling things carefully. Thievery is about smashing trim pieces open in moments and cutting through wires. Plenty have gotten Ravelco-enabled vehicles started in 30 minutes or less. Plus the thieves had no reason to hurry, they even paused a moment to speak to the owner of the vehicle, not something that will happen with a well-placed siren going off.
The main issue with Ravelco is in fact the price. It can be anywhere from $350 to $400+, for a visible kill switch. What else could you do to secure your car with this amount of money? Maybe a 2-way alarm kit with battery backup, hood pin switch, tilt sensor, proximity sensor, and cash left over for a soldering iron, wire, tape, wire loom, solder, and heat shrink? Pay me $10 and I'll install something much more effective that will not give a thief a starting point.
Ravelco's site says junk about multimeter, resistance, factory immobilizer, etc.
How does this differ from using a multimeter on the Ravelco to find the hot wires, fuel pump, starter, ignition, grounds? fcm defeated this with only a test light, right? Plus, without further comment, their attacks on factory immobilizers is very bland, as well as their "20 seconds" statement.
Best Ravelco Security Thread EVAR! - "hi. i have ravelco and my car got stolen this morning...no it did not get towed and no i did not leave my plug in. (-1) for ravelco." -- tekniq, 6th generation Honda Civic Si
Can we put this thread to rest now?
Also at op's username: I've never hit 3rd gear VTEC, damn DX transmission. It'd be at like 110 mph.
By 'defeating the device', the company refers to making all the necessary pin connections and driving away with the car. They do not include wiring +12 straight to the distributor/fuel pump, bump starting the car to bypass the starter, etc. This is how there are "none stolen yet", which is a blatant lie. Ask tekniq.
A thief will just give up and leave when it doesn't start!
The flaw here is that they have no reason to leave. There isn't attention being brought to them since they're under the dashboard with a closed door picking at wires. There's no siren going off, no pagers buzzing, alerting the owner and bystanders that SOMETHING IS HAPPENING. In fact, this visible kill switch leads you straight to where the OEM wires were cut, ready to be reassembled. Convenient!
In fact, to quote the Ravelco site...
"One of them responded, "Damn, we been here almost an hour. What the hell you got in that thing?"
That hour is much longer than is needed to defeat the Ravelco. Considering it gets installed in an hour which involves taking off trim, finding wires, cutting, soldering (butt connectors in Ravelco's case) taping and looming, and reassembling things carefully. Thievery is about smashing trim pieces open in moments and cutting through wires. Plenty have gotten Ravelco-enabled vehicles started in 30 minutes or less. Plus the thieves had no reason to hurry, they even paused a moment to speak to the owner of the vehicle, not something that will happen with a well-placed siren going off.
The main issue with Ravelco is in fact the price. It can be anywhere from $350 to $400+, for a visible kill switch. What else could you do to secure your car with this amount of money? Maybe a 2-way alarm kit with battery backup, hood pin switch, tilt sensor, proximity sensor, and cash left over for a soldering iron, wire, tape, wire loom, solder, and heat shrink? Pay me $10 and I'll install something much more effective that will not give a thief a starting point.
Ravelco's site says junk about multimeter, resistance, factory immobilizer, etc.
How does this differ from using a multimeter on the Ravelco to find the hot wires, fuel pump, starter, ignition, grounds? fcm defeated this with only a test light, right? Plus, without further comment, their attacks on factory immobilizers is very bland, as well as their "20 seconds" statement.
Best Ravelco Security Thread EVAR! - "hi. i have ravelco and my car got stolen this morning...no it did not get towed and no i did not leave my plug in. (-1) for ravelco." -- tekniq, 6th generation Honda Civic Si
Can we put this thread to rest now?
Also at op's username: I've never hit 3rd gear VTEC, damn DX transmission. It'd be at like 110 mph.
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