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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 06:32 PM
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i remember reading somewhere that you can get something where you have to do some kind of pedal pressing sequence before you start your car.
for example, brake, brake, gas, clutch. then it will start. if you don't do it, it won't start.
anyone have any information this? what it's called? i forgot.. and any idea on what it costs would be great. i figure it may be a great security feature for the right price. thanks.
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Kohen
i remember reading somewhere that you can get something where you have to do some kind of pedal pressing sequence before you start your car.
for example, brake, brake, gas, clutch. then it will start. if you don't do it, it won't start.
anyone have any information this? what it's called? i forgot.. and any idea on what it costs would be great. i figure it may be a great security feature for the right price. thanks.
Never heard of it. Seems impractical to me for a few reasons. How would the ecu recognize the pedal sequence you pressed if the car is off?
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 06:51 PM
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Never heard of it.

My unlces jeep is basicly started by 3 switches. Put each one in the right spot, and it will start. If you can figure out to do it, it would work quite well.

Basicly just like a kill switch, but instead of 1, you have 3 or whatever switches to complete the circut.
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 06:56 PM
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Never heard of it.

My unlces jeep is basicly started by 3 switches. Put each one in the right spot, and it will start. If you can figure out to do it, it would work quite well.

Basicly just like a kill switch, but instead of 1, you have 3 or whatever switches to complete the circut.
One of my friend's actually made his own Ravelco. It's pretty cool if you ask me, really simple idea. The only difference is one is $500+ and the diy one is like $20~

If you're interested I can try to find a link for you.
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 07:06 PM
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Never heard of it. Seems impractical to me for a few reasons. How would the ecu recognize the pedal sequence you pressed if the car is off?
not sure. haha. may require some kind of modification to the pedals? idk..

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Never heard of it.

My unlces jeep is basicly started by 3 switches. Put each one in the right spot, and it will start. If you can figure out to do it, it would work quite well.

Basicly just like a kill switch, but instead of 1, you have 3 or whatever switches to complete the circut.
that's what i plan on doing when i install my fuel pump kill switch. pretty easy to do. each switch just has to be in the "on" position to complete the circuit

Originally Posted by civicjunkie17
One of my friend's actually made his own Ravelco. It's pretty cool if you ask me, really simple idea. The only difference is one is $500+ and the diy one is like $20~

If you're interested I can try to find a link for you.
sure. sounds like a good read
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 07:22 PM
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I have actually been meaning ask him how he hooked up. I see him almost everyday, and I never remember. lol
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 11:20 PM
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I have actually been meaning ask him how he hooked up. I see him almost everyday, and I never remember. lol
Only downside I see would be I'm guessing it's not very hidden since there are three switches. Unless the switches are spaced out throughout the vehicle.
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 06:45 AM
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Default Re: pedal sequence code before starting car?

Originally Posted by Kohen
for example, brake, brake, gas, clutch. then it will start. if you don't do it, it won't start.
Sounds like like a secret code for a video game.
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 98civdx
Never heard of it.

My unlces jeep is basicly started by 3 switches. Put each one in the right spot, and it will start. If you can figure out to do it, it would work quite well.

Basicly just like a kill switch, but instead of 1, you have 3 or whatever switches to complete the circut.
Also seems impractical. Just rip out the switches and connect the 1st and third switch and complete the circuit.
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 07:17 AM
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Default Re: pedal sequence code before starting car?

Install Hella/train horns.

Wire kill switch to horn button.
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 07:24 AM
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Use the key pad start security. Wired the pedals to any number.

For example clutch(1) brake(2) gas(3)

Code: 3121 = gas clutch brake clutch
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Kohen
Only downside I see would be I'm guessing it's not very hidden since there are three switches. Unless the switches are spaced out throughout the vehicle.
Switches are not hidden, they are in plain sight.

The differences with this jeep is it hangs out in the garage, whatched by 3 big *** dogs.
It's rarely out of his sight anyways.


If you wanted to do this, you would need to be a little more careful where you put the swithces.
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by kaiba
Sounds like like a secret code for a video game.
hahaha

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Switches are not hidden, they are in plain sight.

The differences with this jeep is it hangs out in the garage, whatched by 3 big *** dogs.
It's rarely out of his sight anyways.


If you wanted to do this, you would need to be a little more careful where you put the swithces.
yeah i figured.
and yeah definitely. wouldn't want someone to be able to complete the circuit easily. i've thought of some good places for a kill switch.
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 10:28 AM
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Default Re: pedal sequence code before starting car?

my old si had kill switch hidden in the shift boot. IDK if that's a common place or what... seemed like a good place at the time. However my city has like 1-2 cars stolen a year, so not really a big deal here.
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 11:20 AM
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Default Re: pedal sequence code before starting car?

NEPTUNE RTP has this feature.

where you can setup a code using the gas and brake
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 03:36 PM
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Default Re: pedal sequence code before starting car?

Originally Posted by hyperblu
my old si had kill switch hidden in the shift boot. IDK if that's a common place or what... seemed like a good place at the time. However my city has like 1-2 cars stolen a year, so not really a big deal here.
yeah that's one place i was considering. but that's the second time i've read that. so i'll probably do a different spot.

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NEPTUNE RTP has this feature.

where you can setup a code using the gas and brake
i'm not real good with ECUs. i googled neptune rtp. so would i have to buy their ECU and then get it tuned and everything? or is it something that goes into the ECU you already have? i have a stock ECU right now so it may be a good time to get a chipped/tuned one.
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 04:31 PM
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Default Re: pedal sequence code before starting car?

I think Neptune is just their type of tuning software and probably requires socketing your ecu
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 05:24 PM
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This is currently available with Neptune RTP / Moates Demon:

http://www.hamotorsports.com/neptune-rtp-license.html

"* Anti-Theft feature requires inputs or a code to be entered with TPS and Brake pedal. Also has a valet/fallback mode with adjustable rev limit."

The anti-theft works perfect. You just select whatever sequence of throttle and brake presses you can think of (and remember this code of course). The ECU will not allow the car to start unless you input the code.

I used to run this with the valet mode off ( won't let the car start without the correct code whatsoever ), but found it somewhat unsafe. For those of us with wild builds/ unstable idle if you kill it while driving you may be stuck in an interesection turning ign off, back on, entering code, etc.. while traffic is running you over lol..
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 05:27 PM
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Default Re: pedal sequence code before starting car?

My Lojack system has something along those lines. A valet switch and a secret thing to do to start the car.
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by HAMOTORSPORTS
This is currently available with Neptune RTP / Moates Demon:

http://www.hamotorsports.com/neptune-rtp-license.html

"* Anti-Theft feature requires inputs or a code to be entered with TPS and Brake pedal. Also has a valet/fallback mode with adjustable rev limit."

The anti-theft works perfect. You just select whatever sequence of throttle and brake presses you can think of (and remember this code of course). The ECU will not allow the car to start unless you input the code.

I used to run this with the valet mode off ( won't let the car start without the correct code whatsoever ), but found it somewhat unsafe. For those of us with wild builds/ unstable idle if you kill it while driving you may be stuck in an interesection turning ign off, back on, entering code, etc.. while traffic is running you over lol..
hmm.. so i buy what is in that link and then what? i program it on my laptop? how does it get into my ECU? is it something a tuner would do? like i mentioned before i am not very knowledgeable with ECUs.


Originally Posted by hyperblu
I think Neptune is just their type of tuning software and probably requires socketing your ecu
what's socketing an ECU involve? something a tuner would do or i can do? so you're saying i can keep my current OEM ECU?
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 07:30 PM
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Chipping it. You can do it your self, however unles you have experience doing this sort of work I reccomend haveing a shop do it for you.

You will also need to get it dyno tuned.
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 98civdx
Chipping it. You can do it your self, however unles you have experience doing this sort of work I reccomend haveing a shop do it for you.

You will also need to get it dyno tuned.
well then i'll be having a shop do this for me if i decide to go this route.
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 06:03 PM
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You will also need the Moates Demon to use with Neptune... another easier alternative is to just get the complete ECU package with the Demon already socketed into the ECU and the registered Neptune License:

http://www.hamotorsports.com/neptune-rtp-package.html

You will then have this dyno tuned at your local shop..
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by HAMOTORSPORTS
You will also need the Moates Demon to use with Neptune... another easier alternative is to just get the complete ECU package with the Demon already socketed into the ECU and the registered Neptune License:

http://www.hamotorsports.com/neptune-rtp-package.html

You will then have this dyno tuned at your local shop..
damn $550 + shipping? is all that really worth it? couldn't i just buy the Moates Demon and use my current ecu and still get the same benefits? just without the clear cover on the ECU? haha
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Originally Posted by Kohen
damn $550 + shipping? is all that really worth it? couldn't i just buy the Moates Demon and use my current ecu and still get the same benefits? just without the clear cover on the ECU? haha
Yes, you can go that route. The Demon is $249.00 plus $150 for the Neptune License = $399.00

http://www.hamotorsports.com/demon-neptune-package.html

You will then install this into a standard socketed ECU..

As you will see, the full package just makes it easy for you to get up and running

249 for Demon, plus 150 for License, plus 150 for ECU = $549.00 (clear cover is free)
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