Help with installing remote start!
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Help with installing remote start!
I've spent a couple hours over the last week wiring up the wires for the remote start. Now I've reached a point where the instructions aren't so clear. So anyone who is good with wiring or has put in remote start help me out...
What is active output? It's a brown wire on my autoloc remote start kit. What does it go into? I think this is actually optional, but just wondering...
The hood/door safety switch. It says it has a purple wire for cars with a + output, and a green wire for those with -. What does Honda have? Is this what hooks up to the domelight wires? Which are green/red I believe?
Parkinglights wire. Parkinglights are red/green wire right? Just checking.
Remote Start Imputs? Where do these attach to?? Pink for +, and a blue for -. I have no clue what these go into.
What is active output? It's a brown wire on my autoloc remote start kit. What does it go into? I think this is actually optional, but just wondering...
The hood/door safety switch. It says it has a purple wire for cars with a + output, and a green wire for those with -. What does Honda have? Is this what hooks up to the domelight wires? Which are green/red I believe?
Parkinglights wire. Parkinglights are red/green wire right? Just checking.
Remote Start Imputs? Where do these attach to?? Pink for +, and a blue for -. I have no clue what these go into.
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Re: Help with installing remote start! (FourthGenHatch)
I've spent a couple hours over the last week wiring up the wires for the remote start. Now I've reached a point where the instructions aren't so clear. So anyone who is good with wiring or has put in remote start help me out...
What is active output? It's a brown wire on my autoloc remote start kit. What does it go into? I think this is actually optional, but just wondering...
[B]DONT NEED I DONT THINK, NEVER HEARD IT CALLED THIS ON A DEI REMOTE START[B]
The hood/door safety switch. It says it has a purple wire for cars with a + output, and a green wire for those with -. What does Honda have? Is this what hooks up to the domelight wires? Which are green/red I believe?
YOU WILL NEED THE GREEN (-) WIRE.. YES ITS THE GREEN/RED WIRE
Parkinglights wire. Parkinglights are red/green wire right? Just checking.
YES RED/GREEN
Remote Start Imputs? Where do these attach to?? Pink for +, and a blue for -. I have no clue what these go into.
THIS WIRE IS THE SIGNAL WIRE, WHEN IT GETS A NEGATIVE OR POSITIVE PULSE IT WILL START THE REMOTE STARTER, USUALLY AN OUTPUT ON THE ALARM ITS SELF, MOST ALARMS USE A NEGATIVE PULSE
What is active output? It's a brown wire on my autoloc remote start kit. What does it go into? I think this is actually optional, but just wondering...
[B]DONT NEED I DONT THINK, NEVER HEARD IT CALLED THIS ON A DEI REMOTE START[B]
The hood/door safety switch. It says it has a purple wire for cars with a + output, and a green wire for those with -. What does Honda have? Is this what hooks up to the domelight wires? Which are green/red I believe?
YOU WILL NEED THE GREEN (-) WIRE.. YES ITS THE GREEN/RED WIRE
Parkinglights wire. Parkinglights are red/green wire right? Just checking.
YES RED/GREEN
Remote Start Imputs? Where do these attach to?? Pink for +, and a blue for -. I have no clue what these go into.
THIS WIRE IS THE SIGNAL WIRE, WHEN IT GETS A NEGATIVE OR POSITIVE PULSE IT WILL START THE REMOTE STARTER, USUALLY AN OUTPUT ON THE ALARM ITS SELF, MOST ALARMS USE A NEGATIVE PULSE
HOPE THAT HELPED..
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Re: Help with installing remote start! (95CivicEX)
What does the green - wire hook up to, the domelight??
Ok I read the instructions again. Am I understanding that I will only be using either the - or the + imput, in my case the -, and I should just ignore the other wire?
Ok I read the instructions again. Am I understanding that I will only be using either the - or the + imput, in my case the -, and I should just ignore the other wire?
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Re: Help with installing remote start! (FourthGenHatch)
Is this unit you are installing one piece, or are you adding a remote start to another alarm? If it is one piece(alarm and remote start built into one brain), you probably won't use the input wire. The way this works, you can say hook one side of a switch to ground and the other side to the negative input. Then, if you wanted to remote start it without the remote, you flick the switch on. If you are adding the remote start to a separate alarm, you need to use one of the aux channels to input into the remote start. Understand?
And yes you will use the green wire. Hook this to the factory doorpin wire (green/red). Also, if you are hooking your hoodpin into the same green wire, you will want a diode on the wire coming in from the hood pinswitch, that way if your hoodpin ever fails, your interior light won't turn on and drain your battery.
And yes you will use the green wire. Hook this to the factory doorpin wire (green/red). Also, if you are hooking your hoodpin into the same green wire, you will want a diode on the wire coming in from the hood pinswitch, that way if your hoodpin ever fails, your interior light won't turn on and drain your battery.
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Re: Help with installing remote start! (kwhitelaw)
No it's an add on for my autoloc keyless entry. No alarm involved.
My car is old, I don't think it knows if the hood is open or not.
And is that doorpin wire the same as the domelight, cuz that is green/red also. I can wire it to the domelight?
[Modified by FourthGenHatch, 5:22 AM 11/28/2002]
My car is old, I don't think it knows if the hood is open or not.
And is that doorpin wire the same as the domelight, cuz that is green/red also. I can wire it to the domelight?
[Modified by FourthGenHatch, 5:22 AM 11/28/2002]
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Re: Help with installing remote start! (FourthGenHatch)
If you are adding it to a keyless unit and using the keyless unit's remote, you will need a channel out from the keyless to hook into the before mentioned inputs. Is there a diagram online for your keyless system and remote start?
Yes the domelight wire is the same. You should be able to find this wire in the drivers kick panel area. And you are right, your car will not have a hoodpin. You would be required to add one. It is up to you, just remember it is real easy to open Honda hoods from the outside.
Yes the domelight wire is the same. You should be able to find this wire in the drivers kick panel area. And you are right, your car will not have a hoodpin. You would be required to add one. It is up to you, just remember it is real easy to open Honda hoods from the outside.
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Re: Help with installing remote start! (kwhitelaw)
My car is rusty and slow, and is not flashy, not to mention I only park in nice neighborhoods so I don't think it's going to get stolen.
And yes I have 2 channels open so I understand I can just hook that wire to this blue wire and that will initiate the start.
And I can access the domelight wire up where the ignition is to almost. I will hopefully get this working tomorrow so when I go to thanksgiving dinner I can show my family what stupid crap I've done to my car.
And yes I have 2 channels open so I understand I can just hook that wire to this blue wire and that will initiate the start.
And I can access the domelight wire up where the ignition is to almost. I will hopefully get this working tomorrow so when I go to thanksgiving dinner I can show my family what stupid crap I've done to my car.
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Re: Help with installing remote start! (FourthGenHatch)
OK I tired all morning to get this to work and it hasn't. I know I wired up everything right. How come when I press the button nothing at all happens? Any ideas. Are you sure there is no + imput hooked up at all?
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Re: Help with installing remote start! (FourthGenHatch)
Are you sure the channel you're using is set properly? The remote starter probably needs a validity output on that channel. The other thing is do you have the neutral safety switch hooked up? The remote starter must see ground on that wire before it will remote start. You may also need to go through a learn routine. BTW, I hope this is an automatic transmission.
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[Modified by ME, 2:20 PM 11/28/2002]
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Re: Help with installing remote start! (ME)
I have programmed the remotes for the keyless and still nothing. I don't think I have to program the new channels because I tired doing it and it did nothing. Are you sure I don't tap the +imput into a + constant, and then the - is triggered and closes the circuit? In the instructions it's not like a do-this-if, it's a do this and do this. But a lot of you told me to only hook up the -.
Whats a neutral safety switch? I never saw any thing in the instructions about that, is that the door light thing?
Whats a neutral safety switch? I never saw any thing in the instructions about that, is that the door light thing?
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Re: Help with installing remote start! (FourthGenHatch)
Once again, is there a manual online to view the instructions? Have you tried http://www.autoloc.com? Most remote starts either use a negative input or a positive input, but not both. A neutral safety switch is a switch that won't allow the remote start to work if this wire is not grounded or given 12volts, depending on the company. This has nothing to do with your door switch. Your remote start probably doesn't have one.
Unless you find someone on here with the same unit (which without a model number is gonna be hard), you are gonna have a hard time getting any help.
Unless you find someone on here with the same unit (which without a model number is gonna be hard), you are gonna have a hard time getting any help.
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Re: Help with installing remote start! (kwhitelaw)
Autolocs Website sucks.
I know I have the main + good, I am sure it is grounded. I hooked all the wires up to the ignition, starter, all that stuff. I hooked a wire into the brake pedal, and a wire into the domelight. And then finally I hooked that - imput into my spare channel on the remote reciever. I even tried hooking up the + to see if that would work. I get nothing, it might as well not be hooked into anything. Wouldn't this thing give me some sign that something was at least on?
One other thing is this spare channel is for an optional trunk popper thing. A Remote Start could work on the channel instead right, it's all the same?
[Modified by FourthGenHatch, 5:26 AM 11/29/2002]
I know I have the main + good, I am sure it is grounded. I hooked all the wires up to the ignition, starter, all that stuff. I hooked a wire into the brake pedal, and a wire into the domelight. And then finally I hooked that - imput into my spare channel on the remote reciever. I even tried hooking up the + to see if that would work. I get nothing, it might as well not be hooked into anything. Wouldn't this thing give me some sign that something was at least on?
One other thing is this spare channel is for an optional trunk popper thing. A Remote Start could work on the channel instead right, it's all the same?
[Modified by FourthGenHatch, 5:26 AM 11/29/2002]
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Re: Help with installing remote start! (FourthGenHatch)
Most remote starts only need a pulse on the input wire, not a constant signal. It must only need one or the other. You can take the negative input wire and touch it to a metal part of the dash and see if the remote start activates. If it doesn't, you may a problem elsewhere in the install.
Also, from what I could get from autolocs website, most of their channel outputs only support a very low amperage. You may need a relay to up the current some more. If the car starts when you ground the negative input wire but doesn't start off the keyless unit, you probably need a relay. You could also disconnect your brake wire temporarily to see if you accidently hooked it to the other side of the brake switch.
Also, from what I could get from autolocs website, most of their channel outputs only support a very low amperage. You may need a relay to up the current some more. If the car starts when you ground the negative input wire but doesn't start off the keyless unit, you probably need a relay. You could also disconnect your brake wire temporarily to see if you accidently hooked it to the other side of the brake switch.
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Re: Help with installing remote start! (ME)
Text book case of companies that give crappy instructions.
This is from the Autoloc instructions...
"2. Ground (-) Black: Connect the black wire to a solid chassis ground (body metal). The system will function erotically if this connection is not solid."
Erotically? Are hot chicks going to come out of this connection and have sex with me?
"16. Remote Start Imput (Blue): When this wire recieves a (-) it will start you car."
I mean could Autoloc please proofread this crap before they print it. What are they swedish or something?
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This is from the Autoloc instructions...
"2. Ground (-) Black: Connect the black wire to a solid chassis ground (body metal). The system will function erotically if this connection is not solid."
Erotically? Are hot chicks going to come out of this connection and have sex with me?
"16. Remote Start Imput (Blue): When this wire recieves a (-) it will start you car."
I mean could Autoloc please proofread this crap before they print it. What are they swedish or something?
[Modified by FourthGenHatch, 7:27 PM 11/29/2002]
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Re: Help with installing remote start! (FourthGenHatch)
Anyway here are the instructions, I believe I did everything right.
Ground: Wired this into the same ground for my keyless, and that works, so so should this ground right?
Power 12v: Wired this into the + on the ignition.
Start Wire: I know I did it right
Ignition Wire: Same
Assessory Wire: Same
Instant Stop: Wired this so the foot brake. There were 3 wires, 1 was black I think and the other 2 were both green/white so I wired it into one of those g/w wires.
Hood Door Safety Switch: Green - wire put into the domelight wire.
Parkinglights White: Did it right.
Remote Start Imput: Blue - into the open channel of the remote.
Everything else it says was optional. So from what I see everything should work but doesn't I think I should go try that touching the thing to the ground and see if anything happens.
Ground: Wired this into the same ground for my keyless, and that works, so so should this ground right?
Power 12v: Wired this into the + on the ignition.
Start Wire: I know I did it right
Ignition Wire: Same
Assessory Wire: Same
Instant Stop: Wired this so the foot brake. There were 3 wires, 1 was black I think and the other 2 were both green/white so I wired it into one of those g/w wires.
Hood Door Safety Switch: Green - wire put into the domelight wire.
Parkinglights White: Did it right.
Remote Start Imput: Blue - into the open channel of the remote.
Everything else it says was optional. So from what I see everything should work but doesn't I think I should go try that touching the thing to the ground and see if anything happens.
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Re: Help with installing remote start! (FourthGenHatch)
kwhitelaw you were dead on about that low-aperage. I went outside touched the blue wire to the body metal and then I heard clicks in the control box and the car started seconds later.
Any idea how I can up the aperage. I have some 12v relays around, will those work. Help me out I would love to have this done by tomorrow.
Any idea how I can up the aperage. I have some 12v relays around, will those work. Help me out I would love to have this done by tomorrow.
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Re: Help with installing remote start! (FourthGenHatch)
If you have a standard SPDT relay, this is what you do:
terminal 85 goes to 12 V +
terminal 86 goes to - trigger from alarm
terminal 30 goes to ground
terminal 87 to input for starter unit that you touched to ground
terminal 85 goes to 12 V +
terminal 86 goes to - trigger from alarm
terminal 30 goes to ground
terminal 87 to input for starter unit that you touched to ground
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Re: Help with installing remote start! (FourthGenHatch)
yes, 85 and 86 basically go to a coil that acts like an electromagnet when it has + and - which pulls a thin piece of metal inside towards it, which completes the circuit.
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Ok I still get nothing when I press the buttons even with the relay. I am starting to think that no signal at all is being sent from the reciever when I press the button. My keyless entry still works fine, is it possible for only 1 channel to be broken. Or might I have to program that channel or something?
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Re: Help with installing remote start! (FourthGenHatch)
Yes, you may need to program the channel. I have no idea how to do it with this brand.
Try the security forum on the12volt.com, there's lots of installers over there, I'm sure one is familiar with autoloc.
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Try the security forum on the12volt.com, there's lots of installers over there, I'm sure one is familiar with autoloc.
[Modified by ME, 2:51 PM 11/30/2002]
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