friend told me about some headlight kill switch. so by luck if a thief takes my car he cant turn on tha headlights and if a cop see him he will get pulled over...just want some info on how to do and ideas on where to put it pics would help..thnx H-T

 

it is easy now if have never heard of this but all you have to do is find the wires for the heads lights wire them threw the switch so when you flip the switch to the correct spot it makes a full circut and turns on

honestly i doubt someone has this on there car.

 

You would be wrong, although I do not have it on my own cars, I have installed "kill switches" on head lights for customers.

Works better if you do it to the brake lights, that way if car is stolen during the day the crook is just as likely to get pulled over, it is less likely the thief would know the brake lights don't work then if the head lights don't work, even at night. 94

 

I got it, and I set it up so that the rear lights and brake lights do not work. A good layer to add to any alarm system.

 

Thats all well and good, but I think the point is to not only get your car back, but to do some in one piece. yea, itll get you pulled over, but im willing to bet youre much more likely to get rear ended than pulled. Im a fan of the headlight switch. Never heard of that before, but I like it. only thing is youre SOL if your car gets jacked when its light out ha

 

LOL, You think you will get the car back in one piece, [or at all] if the crook does not get pulled over?

Also as you mention, with head light kill you would have to hope the car is stolen at night, and even if it is, it is a pretty good bet the crook will notice that there are no head lights and would try and do something about it, it is an easy fix/bypass. 94

 

I wouldn't recommend this during an emergency situation.

Why not just pull out your bulbs before you go to sleep then put them back on in the morning?

 

Actually that style of "ghost switch" works very well.

 

that is a good idea while not all theft happens at night a good amount of it does. Any chance one someone doing a diy on this anytime soon

 

Can you guys give us a little run down on how to set this up correctly.

 

Which one, head lights or brake lights and do you want it active or passive? 94

 

Okay I'm a newb please explain active and passive arming and I was talking about brake lights.

 

One thing to think about here guys exspecially you installers, you could be opening yourself up to civil law suites. If the lights do not work and an accident occured they could hold you liable for disabling a safety feature. Regardless of if the car was stolen or not because YOU modified the car for that device not to work.

Not something that if I was an installer or company I would want to risk. Just the litigation would drive you into bankruptcy.

 

Active = you must turn it off and on.

Passive = it will turn off by itself and you will have to turn it on. 94

nsxxtreme good point, we never do any mods to cars without a waiver signed, not even fog lights, sat. radio or aftermarket HU.

 

I'm not so sure a waiver would release you from liability claims (it might possibly release you from claims from the owner but NOT from someone that was injured because of this). This is because common sense says you should not disable brake lights or headlights. A waiver is only good as long as the court believe's you did not believe the car would be used on the street. (such as a show car). In this case I think they would believe you knew exactly how this was going to be used and are just trying to get around being held responsible. Your company your choice if it were me the stakes are to high and I wouldn't do it.

Think of it this way if you disabled the passenger air bag and the your customer got in an accident, do you really believe the waiver you had your customer sign releases you from civil liabilities from his passenger? The passenger never signed the waiver and the owner and YOU will both be held liable.

I think a better solution is to wire a flasher into the tail lights. So they still function when the brake is pressed but flash when the brake is released. This will still draw attention to the car and the lights are still functional. Even this I would want to talk with an attorney before I started implementing.

 

Take the air bag as a comparison, would the car manufacturer be held liable if the owner of the car turned off the pass. air bag, I am pretty sure the manufacturers team of lawyers got that dropped on their desk long before a pass. air bag on/off switch was installed on any of their models.

How about the brake light switch itself, what if it fails, or the brake light fuse blows, yea maybe the owner/driver could be held liable for not fixing it, but it's a good bet the manufacturer would not be held liable for installing them.

But I understand, your in the USA, where a crook can hold a homeowner liable if he gets hurt breaking into his house.

It would not surprise me one bit if the car thief could hold the owner of the car liable if he got rear ended by the police chasing him, he would probably get off the rap also because he didn't know the brake lights did not work. 94

 

Sorry for hijacking this thread I would just feel bad if some of the installers on here got sued.

The only cars that are capable of turning the air bag off is cars with no back seat. This is required so that someone with a young child can still transport their kids. Thus a real justifiable need to turn this safety feature off and not put anyone's life in danger. There is also a big yellow light to let everyone in the car know it's off.

Yes the owner could be held liable, this is usually the first thing your insurance company will ask. Did the other vehichles lights work properly.

The car manufacturer can not be held liable for normal wear and tear. I assure you that if a bunch of cars rolled off the assembly line with non working tail lights they would be sued for any resulting accidents.

The issue here is you are purposely endagering innocent bystanders lives by disabling a safety feature. Believe it or not most people value their lives more then you value your car. This isn't an item that is worn out. You are purposely disabling it. There is a big difference. By doing this even if you get the owner to sign a waiver you are opening yourself up to a lawsuite. Maybe you will maybe you wont, I tend to travel down the roads with least resistance.

I would much rather wire a flasher into the brake system. This is a really simple task and flasher cost only a couple dollars. When the brake is pressed the lights will work as normal. When the brake is released they will flash. (same tactic alarm manufacturers use)

 

instead of a headlight kill switch, do a fuel pump kill switch..with a headlight kill switch thieves can still take your car..

 

it wasnt meant to stop a theif from stealing your car. only to draw attension to the car so they get pulled over and caught.

 

What about a headlight flasher like those annoying *** motorcycles use? Maybe draw attention to the car by everyone.

 

could we get a write-up on the headlight switch? It would be greatly appreciated

 

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I feel that its more of a "I forgot to turn on my headlights". Who and the hell would try to drive car at night with no headlights. Let alone a stolen one. I will ask my attorney about this one. And report back what he says.

 

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