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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 07:22 AM
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I bought an extra alarm siren to hook up to my Python 460HP. My question is should i just mount it under my hood like where my other one is or in the back of the car. I was wanting it to go in the back of the car but i don't know of a good spot to mount it to. So please help me or at least give me some ideas.
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 07:39 AM
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I have installed a few under the bumper clip, remove clip, carve out some of the Styrofoam, install siren, reinstall clip. 94
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 12:16 PM
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Get a DEI (Viper) 515R back up siren. Then you won't need to hide it. Plus, even if the wire's been cut, it'll ring for a good 3-5 minutes on it's reserve battery.

Just adding a siren won't do **** if someone breaks in and unplugs the alarm brain out of your car.

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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 12:33 PM
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Install the alarm INSIDE the car. It's insanely loud in a confined cabin and hide it well. REAL WELL.
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 02:30 PM
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Alright guys i think i found a spot on the back of the bumper area but i was wondering what would be the best way to run it from the back of the car to the brain without going under the car so the wires aren't outside. I didn't really see any good spots to drill or any spots where there are already wire holes so what would be the best way to go about this.
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 02:49 PM
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Take the siren and mount it with screws under the trunk on the opposite side as the muffler. Then remove screws, enlarge the holes the screws were in, drop a bolt in each of the holes and mount the siren with the bolts.

On my civic there were some blank grommets behind the bumper cover, I don't remember where exactly. Run the wire into the car there and run it to the alarm. Be sure to fuse this siren seperately from the one under the hood with a 3 amp fuse. That way if someone shorts one of the siren's out the other will still be going off.
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 04:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by skrewdriver88 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Alright guys i think i found a spot on the back of the bumper area but i was wondering what would be the best way to run it from the back of the car to the brain without going under the car so the wires aren't outside. I didn't really see any good spots to drill or any spots where there are already wire holes so what would be the best way to go about this.
thanks</TD></TR></TABLE> If you pull the rear trim out of the hatch you will see the grommet for the license plate light wires, run it with them. 94
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 09:47 PM
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Run the wires inside the car. If you take out all of the "carpet" on the side in your trunk area, you will see a large hole with rubber flaps that allows water to evaporate out of your trunk area (should be on the left). You can run the wires through there with no drilling/cutting and everything will still be hidden.
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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 08:11 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AlpineInstaller &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Run the wires inside the car. If you take out all of the "carpet" on the side in your trunk area, you will see a large hole with rubber flaps that allows water to evaporate out of your trunk area (should be on the left). You can run the wires through there with no drilling/cutting and everything will still be hidden.</TD></TR></TABLE>Not a good way to do it, the wire will keep the "flaps" open allowing water to splash in, as I said there is already a grommet for the license plate light wiring going out the back of the car. 94
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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 10:41 PM
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Alright so i know how im going to run the wires and i bought an inline 3 amp fuse but my only question now is do i just splice the siren wire and connect it there or do i some how connect both positive wires to the connecter where it plugs into the brain?
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Old Jun 10, 2005 | 08:12 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by skrewdriver88 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Alright so i know how im going to run the wires and i bought an inline 3 amp fuse but my only question now is do i just splice the siren wire and connect it there or do i some how connect both positive wires to the connecter where it plugs into the brain?
TIA</TD></TR></TABLE>I would install a relay, using the alarms siren output to control the relay, then wire both sirens to the relay, [driving both sirens directly off the alarm may do damage to the alarm brain] and to be safe you need 3 fuses, one for power for the relay and one for each siren. 94
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Old Jun 11, 2005 | 11:05 PM
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Could you please draw me a diagram of how to hook up the relays and all the other stuff. I am not good with electronics.
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Old Jun 12, 2005 | 07:41 AM
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I need to know what the polarity is on the siren output, is it a pos. (+) or a neg. (-) output, go here http://www.the12volt.com click on relays under basics, to understand how relays work, also check everything under car security, lots of other good "stuff" there also, then if you have a question feel free to IM me 94
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 12:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fcm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I need to know what the polarity is on the siren output, is it a pos. (+) or a neg. (-) output, go here http://www.the12volt.com click on relays under basics, to understand how relays work, also check everything under car security, lots of other good "stuff" there also, then if you have a question feel free to IM me 94</TD></TR></TABLE>

when i click on the link it brings me to yahoo and i also tried typing it in but it brings me to yahoo also so i don't know if it doesn't work or if its just my old *** computer
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 01:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by skrewdriver88 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">or if its just my old *** computer</TD></TR></TABLE> It must be, If I click on the link, or the link of your quote of me it works, Log out of H/T and then try it. All I can do is tell you how its wired, but I need to know what the alarms siren output polarity is, pos. or neg. 94
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 10:16 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fcm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I need to know what the alarms siren output polarity is, pos. or neg. 94</TD></TR></TABLE>

It is at my house but what am i looking for is it on the box or on the siren.
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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 09:31 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by skrewdriver88 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

It is at my house but what am i looking for is it on the box or on the siren.
thanks</TD></TR></TABLE> It will be in the wiring diagram, the siren can be used both ways, [pos. (+) or neg. (-) "trip"] but to tell you how to wire the relay, I need to know what the siren output from the alarm is, [probably neg. (-)] 94
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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 09:55 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fcm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> It will be in the wiring diagram, the siren can be used both ways, [pos. (+) or neg. (-) "trip"] but to tell you how to wire the relay, I need to know what the siren output from the alarm is, [probably neg. (-)] 94 </TD></TR></TABLE>

There is no wiring diagram but coming from the siren is just the positive and negative wire and the soft chirp loop wire.
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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 10:51 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by skrewdriver88 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

There is no wiring diagram but coming from the siren is just the positive and negative wire and the soft chirp loop wire.</TD></TR></TABLE>I mean the wiring diagram for the alarm 94
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Old Jun 26, 2005 | 01:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fcm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I mean the wiring diagram for the alarm 94</TD></TR></TABLE>

im not sure if this is what you are talking about but there is a positive and a negative coming from the brain to the siren and the alarm system that i have a Python 460 HP.
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Old Jun 27, 2005 | 10:53 AM
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Old Jun 27, 2005 | 01:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by skrewdriver88 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

im not sure if this is what you are talking about but there is a positive and a negative coming from the brain to the siren and the alarm system that i have a Python 460 HP.
TIA</TD></TR></TABLE>Sorry I took so long to get back to you,I had to go to the shop to access directed for the install manual, anyway, the output is 12V+, it does not say how many amps, so I would guess it's around the same as the input one, [15A], but to be safe, use a relay and wire it this way......
86- to ground
85- from the alarms siren output, [brown]
87- from a 12V+ constant source, [fused]
87a- not used
30- to red wire of both sirens
The black wires from sirens go to ground. 94
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 10:31 AM
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 04:06 PM
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YW........ Let us know how it works out. 94
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 11:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fcm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sorry I took so long to get back to you,I had to go to the shop to access directed for the install manual, anyway, the output is 12V+, it does not say how many amps, so I would guess it's around the same as the input one, [15A], but to be safe, use a relay and wire it this way......
86- to ground
85- from the alarms siren output, [brown]
87- from a 12V+ constant source, [fused]
87a- not used
30- to red wire of both sirens
The black wires from sirens go to ground. 94</TD></TR></TABLE>

Just one more question before i install it. where you said "from the alarms siren output, [brown]" do i just take the wire and unplug it and connect it to the 85 and then get a wire and connect 85 to the spot were the siren output was before?
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