<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mnaines &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Rockford Fosgate, Bose, and Eclipse make better speakers, MTX and Bazooka are the two best amps, [/i]</TD></TR></TABLE>

you can't be serious...tell me you are just trolling, please

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mnaines &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Mrdeadman, I know Sony is not the best, and the reason I don't have Sony amps is because their amps suck, and are just plain ugly. Sony's amps lack many of the features of higher-end amps, like a MOSFET power supply. Plus, Sony tends to exxagerate the power ratings on their amps...Their amps are almost always rated less than what Sony says they have. Plus, I have been to some quality comps in my hometown...I was the only one at those comps with Monster Cable speaker and subwoofer cables as well as the only person there with a capacitor. Needless to say, I was the only one at those competitions who was actually getting the full dynamic soundstage out of my setup. Most of those people made up for the additional demand for power by installing hiogher-output 16V, 200A alternators. The alternator in my car is a 14.4V, 80A alternator, and the car runs just fine thanks to that 1.5 Farad capacitor and the Optima Yellowtop battery.

The Monster Cables, the Optima Yellowtop battery, the Tsunami 1.5 Farad capacitor, and the Dynomats are why I'm getting better quality out of my Sony setup. The Dynomat is a carpet-like silencer that you attach to the inside of the trunk or to door frames and is used to reduce distortion and interference from outside noises.


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ok, now you are just killing me over here - do you even know what you are talking about?!?!

 

Look bro if you are having experienced installers telling you that Sony is crap don't you think that it is a sign. Of course each installer is going to have his/her preferences when it comes to equipment but if 95% of the time installers tell you that one particular companies product is crap its for a reason. Ask an installer what equipment they have in their own car. When it comes to head units i highly doubt that there are alot of installers with a Sony. They will have Alpine, Pioneer, Kenwood, Clarion, and Eclipse most of the time.And I didn't list them in any particular order.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mnaines &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The Monster Cables, the Optima Yellowtop battery, the Tsunami 1.5 Farad capacitor, and the Dynomats are why I'm getting better quality out of my Sony setup. The Dynomat is a carpet-like silencer that you attach to the inside of the trunk or to door frames and is used to reduce distortion and interference from outside noises.
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I'm going to have to disagree with you getting better quality out of your sony with you fancy pants cables, battery or cap. Those things aren't even attached to the headunit. Also: all the people you're arguing with know what dynamat is. And those people with upgraded alternators don't need a cap... you are just pussyfooting around the problem.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mnaines &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Plus, I have been to some quality comps in my hometown...I was the only one at those comps with Monster Cable speaker and subwoofer cables</TD></TR></TABLE>

I still don't understand what is the purpose of a 8 gauge speaker cable

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mnaines &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">as well as the only person there with a capacitor. Needless to say, I was the only one at those competitions who was actually getting the full dynamic soundstage out of my setup. Most of those people made up for the additional demand for power by installing hiogher-output 16V, 200A alternators. The alternator in my car is a 14.4V, 80A alternator, and the car runs just fine thanks to that 1.5 Farad capacitor and the Optima Yellowtop battery.
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A better alternator is the way to go But with the tiny system of yours, with heavily underpowered subs, I don't even know why you have any of your power upgrades

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mnaines &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am sorry for dragging this issue on, but I based my thoughts on Sony from the reviews I read at circuitcity.com. I read all of Circuit City's reviews for the CDXGT200 Sony Xplod head unit and the Pioneer DEH-2800MP head unit. The CDXGT200 head unit had 96 reviews, with a total average of 4.4 out of 5. The Pioneer DEH-2800MP only had 7 reviews, with an average of 4.2 out of 5. Both head units run $110 to $120, so I was comparing two products within the same price range. The CDXGT200 and the DEH-2800MP...I was comparing those two models (both are $120 at circuit city) when I started this thread about Sony being better. Look up those models for yourself at circuitcity.com, read the reviews, and then tell me if you think that particular Pioneer model is better than the Sony model.


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I can eat 3 4x4 bugers from in-n-out and my shyt will have more iq then a cc review. It all marketing. better review from someone up in the main office or there corp. = better sales for that product. Why do you thing there sale prices are allways moving.

 

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I still don't understand what is the purpose of a 8 gauge speaker cable



A better alternator is the way to go But with the tiny system of yours, with heavily underpowered subs, I don't even know why you have any of your power upgrades </TD></TR></TABLE>

When you are running 3k watts to a speaker you are gonna need something bigger then the normal sub wire.

 

The capacitor is hooked up to the amps, and the amps are what is providing the sound. The CDX GT200 has a selectable subwoofer/external amplifier preout with a low-pass filter, which means I either run the head unit from its internal amplifier, or I switch and run through an external amplifier, so I ran the external amps, with the 1.5 Farad capacitor powering both amps. The MTX Thunder TA 3404 amp is used for the mid- and high-range sounds while the MTX Thunder TA 3401 amp is used for the bass. Both amps are being powered by the 25V 1.5 Farad capacitor, which has a direct connection through 4-guage power wire to the Optima Yellowtop battery. The big benefit to running a cap is that the amps draw the power they need from the cap instead of from the alternator. This means less strain on the vehicle charging system, and it also means I can save money by not having to upgrade my alternator. Factory alternator in my car is a 14.4V 80A alternator, and the Optima battery instructions say no more than 15V from the alternator. I can run the entire setup just fine with the cap, but I can only get the benefit of the capacitor with the engine running.

 

I don't want but I have to ask, How much experience do you have as an installer?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SiRGDC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't want but I have to ask, How much experience do you have as an installer?
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From what I can tell: he doesn't.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wrx-killer-Sti eater &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">When you are running 3k watts to a speaker you are gonna need something bigger then the normal sub wire. </TD></TR></TABLE>

His 400 wrms (at most) is hella close to 3k watts!!

 

omg, stop it with the specs please. your killing me. quoting specs here is not going to get you anymore respect here or love. your allready minus on bownies points. everyone here know when to use a cap and when not too. And a cap will put a small ding on your charging system. Something got to fill it. Most people use it as a band-aid anyways. Only smartest thing you said in you last post is that it works better with the car running

 

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you don't know ohm's law do you? How can a cap be at 25V if a perfectly functioning charging system ouputs ~14.4v?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mnaines &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Both amps are being powered by the 25V 1.5 Farad capacitor, which has a direct connection through 4-guage power wire to the Optima Yellowtop battery.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Don't you know that you're supposed to be using a fused connection to the battery?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rcurley55 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you don't know ohm's law do you? How can a cap be at 25V if a perfectly functioning charging system ouputs ~14.4v?</TD></TR></TABLE>

He's giving specs again.

 

The OP is hiding behind specs and does not seem to have any real experience with car audio. Sorry buddy but knowing specs of equipment doesn't make you an audio genius. More experience = more credibility! IMHO

 

All I can say now is BRAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, it's gone from silly to just plain dumb. "Dynomats" "MTX and Bazooka are the best two amps" one more time, Brahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahhaaaaaaa, stop it's beginning to hurt, I feel another stroke coming on. 94

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fcm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> All I can say now is BRAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, it's gone from silly to just plain dumb. "Dynomats" "MTX and Bazooka are the best two amps" one more time, Brahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahhaaaaaaa, stop it's beginning to hurt, I feel another stroke coming on. 94</TD></TR></TABLE>

Don't worry fcm I got the de-fib right here lol. Ha ha it was me the hole time playing with you guys. .......... sike just kidding lol. This guy is amazing.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mnaines &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Needless to say, I was the only one at those competitions who was actually getting the full dynamic soundstage out of my setup.
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Not with your speakers, What person was telling this and what meter were they looking at. rofl!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mnaines &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The Monster Cables, the Optima Yellowtop battery, the Tsunami 1.5 Farad capacitor, and the Dynomats are why I'm getting better quality out of my Sony setup. The Dynomat is a carpet-like silencer that you attach to the inside of the trunk or to door frames and is used to reduce distortion and interference from outside noises.
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This was the smartest thing you said in your post so far

 

a carpet like material that reduces distortion and interference from outside noises


baaaaaawaaaaaahahhahahahahahhahahah - awesome

 

Ladies and Gentlemen, find out the whole story before you go ripping this guy apart. Maybe he has downsyndrome or something.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EBP_SI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ladies and Gentlemen, find out the whole story before you go ripping this guy apart. Maybe he has downsyndrome or something.</TD></TR></TABLE> LOL that one cracked me right up. 94

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mnaines &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sony Xplod is middle-of-the-road quality compared to the higher-end setyups like Rockford Fosgate, Infinity, or Bose.


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You have no idea what high end really means son. no clue whatsoever. bose is a joke and infinity is decent but still middle of the road at best and i'd say the same about fosgate. You strike me as the type of person who thinks they know everything and yet still shops at circuit city and thinks their most expensive stuff is high end. Circuit city doesnt carry anything high end. do you know why? Its too much money for the average consumer. Most people aren't going to spend $1000 on a 3 way component set for their front stage that requirs a ton of custom work to install. They're not going to spend the hundreds of hours it takes to really build an SQ setup.

I'd love to see some pictures of your setup, I really would.

 

ruh roh, I think we scared him away.

I don't have a problem, per se, with noobs - I mean we all learned somewhere, but to come off here and spit out a bunch of techno-babble to try to sound smart - that's where I draw the line.

Too bad, looks like we scared him away, it was nice comic relief!

 

I think we all hurt his feelings. I still want to know how much experience this guy has installing, if any.

 

Don't feel bad for him, his Sony head unit has an auto-hug feature built-in - all for a low price of $120 at Circuit City