97GSR

right now i have a 10 inch jl w0 powered by 125 watts in my gsr. last night i put my friends box that has 2 10" JL w3 in my car with the same amp it was hitting so much harder. Now im thinking, what if i get another 10w0 and put both of them in a bandpass box. Will that sound alot better, will the bandpass box or the extra 10" make a big difference. Or should i just get a new box with 2 10w3 or 12w3.

SuperSteve

Well let me see.....10W-0-->about $100.......10W-3---about$300
If you can get the W-3's I wouldn't even look at the W-0's and don't put them in a bandpass, Get a custom box built for them. With the right box and enough power pushing them, they sound very nice.

g4b17

the box makes the subs. i would make sure that the box you are using is the right size first and then go from there.

bhcvc

10W3's are about $150 (tho, still more expensive than 10W0's, but I've never seen them for $300). Like Supersteve said, those are much nicer. They can hit harder, handle more power, and sound a bit cleaner. Are you going for just plain loud or good solid tight bass? Either sub will get loud...if you plan on having some major juice in your system in the future, the 10W3's would be the way to go...they handle much more power and have a much larger motor structure. The 10W0's are fine for most people that want it to get loud and don't want a ton of power in their system. Either way, like g4b17 said, get a good box. Ported if you want just crazy-loud bass or sealed for a really nice, deep, accurate, tight bass. I'm not a big fan of bandpass enclosures, tho they can help get the subs pretty loud.

JoshRambo

its gonna hit harder since you are pushing 20( 2 10's) inches of air instead of just 10. thats why a 12 hits harder than a 10, in most cases. And the fact that they are w3's makes a big difference. i'm using 2 JL 12-W3's and a JL 500x1 amp. hits very hard

and yes they box makes a big difference

97GSR

ok, the w3 are going to be a price difference that i cant afford right now...would adding another jl 10w0 to the one i already have make a big difference...are bandpass not good for jl?

Fat Matt

If you're not going to pump a significant amount of more power to the subs, just stick with the W0's.

supadupamikey

You also gotta think about what ohms you're running...

Lets just say...

With your 1 sub, it may be 4ohm, or it may even be 2ohm or 8ohm, and the resistance of the sub (the ohms) is going to determine how much power the amp is pushing to the sub.

Obviously, this whole thing could go either way, but, most likely, with 2 subs, you are running a lower resistance and therefore pushing the amp harder and its putting out more power.

It also depends how the whole thing is wired up, whether you're running your amp in stereo, or mono, etc, etc, etc.

Make sure you dont run your amp at too low of an impedance or you'll toast it.

JimmieD

the 10w0 is a much better overall sub than the w3 series. please dont flame but price is not everything. Get another 10w0 and build a box suited to your needs. any jl audio will have a box chart so you can build your depending on you listening needs or you can even call jl audio. the tech guys are great at helping you out. if you want the boom go ported or band pass. if you want clean tight sound go sealed but use the charts to get your specific needs met.

G

Well, there is a pretty significant difference in w0 and w3. For low power levels, the w0 is the way to go. For bigger amps, back to back a w3 would out perform a similar configured w0 hands down, even a w6 in some instances. There are many advantages to using a w3, even over their once top of the line w6 (price and movement). For all out bass, a w3 could outperform a w6, and cost less too. For you, if you don't want to buy a w3 and you want more bass, save money then get 2 w3s and sell your w0. A bandpass offers more sound and possibly uses less space than a ported box. The only drawback is that you need a strong front end for the steep freq roll offs a bandpass box has. You will get louder with the same woofer in a bandpass box vs ported and sealed, but it must be built exactly as JL reccommends.

How much are you willing to spend? I may have 2 10w3s to sell for @ $200 (unused).....or...If you like, I have 2 IDQ12DVCs in a sealed box for $200 also...... Sorry if this last part belongs in the classifieds....

JimmieD

you will definitely be louder the sound quality is def. much better in a sealed box. I do believe though that if you set up the w0's vs w3's in a head to head competition that the w0's will out perform both in sound quality and loudness if set up in the correct boxes.

dc24me

Stay sealed. Bandpass are too hard to build and are tough on the driver because you can't hear it distort due to the bandpass design. Sealed designs don't have to be perfect. As far as enclosures go, JL has technical data for their drivers in enclosures as small as .35 for I sealed 10 I believe. The only downside of going to a smaller enclosure is you'd raise the F3 or 3dB down point....making it not play as low. Small enclosures also increase power handling.

The 10W0 doesn't have as much excursion as the 10W3, and less power handling and output. Take the prefabricated JL subwoofer enclosures. When you listen to a CS110RW0 box ($169) compared to the CS110W3 ($249), there's so much more output and it's harder to get the W3 to bottom out. Subjectively, the W0 has a "different" sound to them, but one time I heard a single 12W0 in the mounted in a custom fiberglass enclosure in the side of the trunk, running off 300W from an Xtant X603. It sounded really nice and had enough plenty of output. I'm using a pair of 10W3D4s myself.




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