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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 07:20 PM
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okay i purchased the compustar 2wss-as. i install the alarm but i cant get the remotes to program/learn. i turn the key on/off 5 times but i dont hear anything click. i read in an older thread to do that and put the battery in the remote then press I. still nothing. the remote beeps when i press I immediately after putting in the battery but thats it. also the led is not blinking. i only hooked up the essentials of the alarm ie hoodpin, door pin, trunk pin, lock /unlock. for the CN1 plug , i hooked up 12v, prk light, acc, str kill, str, ign, ground. for one of the wires on that plug there was a 12v contstant and prewired relay for ign 2 but i left that off only hooked up the 12v constant part because integras dont have 2nd ignition i think? any ideas?
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 10:13 PM
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Old Jan 20, 2005 | 07:32 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by so simple &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">okay i purchased the compustar 2wss-as. i install the alarm but i cant get the remotes to program/learn. i turn the key on/off 5 times but i dont hear anything click. i read in an older thread to do that and put the battery in the remote then press I. still nothing. the remote beeps when i press I immediately after putting in the battery but thats it. also the led is not blinking. i only hooked up the essentials of the alarm ie hoodpin, door pin, trunk pin, lock /unlock. for the CN1 plug , i hooked up 12v, prk light, acc, str kill, str, ign, ground. for one of the wires on that plug there was a 12v contstant and prewired relay for ign 2 but i left that off only hooked up the 12v constant part because integras dont have 2nd ignition i think? any ideas? </TD></TR></TABLE>A little more info..... do you have 2 remotes? Is one of them a 2way? Is it the led on the remotes that don't blink? that all said, check and make sure that that the 12v constants, [red] are wired to 12v constant, and make sure that the ign. is ign., [ has no power on it when you switch the ign. from run back to acc.] and to get into remote program mode you switch from run, ign.] back to acc. then back to run, [not off] and this can't be done too fast or too slow, if you get into remote program mode, you will hear the relay inside the brain "click" then push button one, [2way] and lock, [1way] one at a time, push and let go and push again till you see/hear light flash relay, both remotes have to be done at the same time, [ same remote programing session, as soon as one remote programs it erases all other prev. programed remotes] 94
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Old Jan 20, 2005 | 07:58 AM
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yeah 2wssas, one 2way remote and one 1way remote. my ign wire was correct, only shows 12v at ign position and not acc position. so i turn the key as if turning on the car and then back to acc not off? i turned it to ign then off as indicated in the manual, but ill try this now.
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Old Jan 20, 2005 | 09:47 AM
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no luck... i tried several ways, turning from positions I to III 5 times, then I to II 5 times, then II to III 5 times, no clicks from brain. when i have time at work again ill pull the brain to doublecheck all of my wiring again because i had to throw everything back together to go do something when i installed the first time and couldnt program the remotes. and yes the led on the remotes flash but the alarm led doesnt flash. i dont think also a loose antenna plug would cause this right? because even without an antenna plugged in the brain should have enough range to pick up the remote 2 feet away.
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Old Jan 20, 2005 | 03:25 PM
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sigh.. maybe i shouldve went with the clifford... new companies kind of worry me now.
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Old Jan 20, 2005 | 08:00 PM
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okay i finally got the remotes to program, i was pissed off and kept turning the key from acc to on/starting hella fast and what do you know the lights flashed and i programmed the remotes. now to my next questions since i have to basically redo the alarm because i need to make it neater. is the remote start built in? usually for alarms there are several extra relay packs, but is the compustar all built into the brain? so i just have to hook up engine sense(tach?), brake sense(+), ebrake sense(-), and then the autostart will be able to work? i dont plan to really use it though because i have some kill switches for fuel in my car. unless i use relays to bypass the manual switching of that but does that make it pointless?
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Old Jan 20, 2005 | 09:45 PM
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Compustar is a gay as mother ******* brand.

Bossman032 has one. the remote start always grinds my starter

I hate this alarm. Only feature I like is the range is hardcore.
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Old Jan 20, 2005 | 11:37 PM
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i got the remote mainly for the best range, i dont plan to use the remote start much if at all. way i see it, compustar is about the range/security. the remote start is just a convenience i can live w/out. but besides the remote start grinding have u had any problems? also for the installers, in the wiring diagram, it says that dome light supervision is for automatic transmissions only???? i want to have dome light supervision, my old viper alarm had it, why shouldnt this one? will it be bad if i hook up dome light super. anyways even though it says auto tranny only?
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Old Jan 21, 2005 | 07:14 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by so simple &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">okay i finally got the remotes to program, i was pissed off and kept turning the key from acc to on/starting hella fast and what do you know the lights flashed and i programmed the remotes. now to my next questions since i have to basically redo the alarm because i need to make it neater. is the remote start built in? usually for alarms there are several extra relay packs, but is the compustar all built into the brain? so i just have to hook up engine sense(tach?), brake sense(+), ebrake sense(-), and then the autostart will be able to work? i dont plan to really use it though because i have some kill switches for fuel in my car. unless i use relays to bypass the manual switching of that but does that make it pointless?</TD></TR></TABLE>Yes the relays are built in for the remote start, and relays tripped by the output when running will take care of the fuel cutoff switchs, the relays will only trigger when you use remote start, I will have to check about the dome light, but it may have something to do with the ready mode that you have to put the compustar into , [on a manual tranny] ready mode, step on brake, set E-brake, take foot off brake, turn ign. key off, [car will keep running] open door and get out, close door, motor will turn off and alarm will arm and doors will lock, [if wired] and as long as a door is not opend you can start the car, evan if you disarm the alarm but don't open a door, but if dome light is wired the compustar sees a disarm as you opening a door, the dome light is the same as the door triggers, but I will check, there must be a way to have dome light supervision and remote start for a manual tranny.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bossman032 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Compustar is a gay as mother ******* brand.

Bossman032 has one. the remote start always grinds my starter

I hate this alarm. Only feature I like is the range is hardcore. </TD></TR></TABLE>You have a problem with wiring, or you have a problem with the compustar brain, they come with a lifetime warranty, over the counter exchange, take it back where you got it and have them check the install or replace the brain 94
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Old Jan 21, 2005 | 08:16 AM
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so the wires i mentioned above are the only ones i have left to connect in order for remote start to work correct? there was one entire plug with wires like light output, etc etc something and i dont need to use any of those right. hm, if the relays for the kill switch only trigger w/ remote start, i may just leave manual switches. because i dont really plan to remote start much, maybe only at work because at work i dont usually use the kill switch because i work like right next to my car in the parking lot. also, i plan to reuse my old dei prox sensor, think its called like 508d, i just wire all 4 of those wires into the compustar shock sensor?
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Old Jan 21, 2005 | 12:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bossman032 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Compustar is a gay as mother ******* brand.

Bossman032 has one. the remote start always grinds my starter

I hate this alarm. Only feature I like is the range is hardcore. </TD></TR></TABLE>

You may have your setting on a longer crank time and that is why its grinding your starter.
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Old Jan 21, 2005 | 12:09 PM
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If you are having all these questions, I would recommend getting it professionally installed.

You have to teach the alarm the tach wire before it will remote start.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by so simple &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so the wires i mentioned above are the only ones i have left to connect in order for remote start to work correct? there was one entire plug with wires like light output, etc etc something and i dont need to use any of those right. hm, if the relays for the kill switch only trigger w/ remote start, i may just leave manual switches. because i dont really plan to remote start much, maybe only at work because at work i dont usually use the kill switch because i work like right next to my car in the parking lot. also, i plan to reuse my old dei prox sensor, think its called like 508d, i just wire all 4 of those wires into the compustar shock sensor?</TD></TR></TABLE>Yes you may be right about the rest of the wires for remote start.
The relays would be used to bypass the kill switchs so even if you switched them on, if you remote start the car they would override the switchs.
As for the dei 508d do not just wire it to the 4 wired of the compustars impact sen. wiring, on one of the plugs, [maybe the one your not using] there is a 1st and 2nd stage input , wire the dei triggers into them 94
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Old Jan 22, 2005 | 07:22 AM
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i dont think the compustar came with a plug to go into the 2nd sensor input. i spent like 5 hours last night reinstalling the alarm then got tired. mounted the brain in an extremely hard to reach spot, hooked up all said wires (except for ebrake i still need to go back and do that, i know i can find it at the ebrake itself but i wasnt able to find it in the fuse box/ driver kick panel area as stated in tech sheets), i should have tested the alarm more thoroughly though, because when the alarm is armed, i turn the key on and the starter kill works, but the alarm doesnt go off when i try to start the car. it only goes off when i shock or make a lot of motion in the car. and as im turning the key, when i hold the key to start the car gets accessory because when i hold it i see my autometer tach come on slowly. have i mixed up ign/acc wires? and the dei prox sensor, too late i wired 4 wires into the compustar impact sensor. im not too sure if its working correctly, does the compustar alarm have a delay? when i arm the car how long does it take for all the sensors to work? or is it instant. i know some alarms compensate for faulty doorpins or rainy days etc. because when i stick my hand in the window the alarm would go off etc, but when i put everything back together and tested it, it wasnt working 100% of the time.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by so simple &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont think the compustar came with a plug to go into the 2nd sensor input. i spent like 5 hours last night reinstalling the alarm then got tired. mounted the brain in an extremely hard to reach spot, hooked up all said wires (except for ebrake i still need to go back and do that, i know i can find it at the ebrake itself but i wasnt able to find it in the fuse box/ driver kick panel area as stated in tech sheets), i should have tested the alarm more thoroughly though, because when the alarm is armed, i turn the key on and the starter kill works, but the alarm doesnt go off when i try to start the car. it only goes off when i shock or make a lot of motion in the car. and as im turning the key, when i hold the key to start the car gets accessory because when i hold it i see my autometer tach come on slowly. have i mixed up ign/acc wires? and the dei prox sensor, too late i wired 4 wires into the compustar impact sensor. im not too sure if its working correctly, does the compustar alarm have a delay? when i arm the car how long does it take for all the sensors to work? or is it instant. i know some alarms compensate for faulty doorpins or rainy days etc. because when i stick my hand in the window the alarm would go off etc, but when i put everything back together and tested it, it wasnt working 100% of the time.</TD></TR></TABLE>As for 2nd sensor input, the compustars we have up here in Canada, alarm/remote start , do have inputs for 1st and 2nd stage warn-a-way alarming.

Yes there is a delay on the impact sensor its about 30sec after arming, its only instant on alarming shutdown, [ when alarm trips and you hit the disarm button and the siren stops but the alarm is still armed]

If you just wired the dei sensor into the compustars impact wire harness without using diodes, the 2 sensors may interfear with each other.

I would check wiring, I'm not positive and I will check, but like most alarms, if armed, and ign. is turned on, the alarm should trip, this is not the same as remote starting with the alarm armed, when you do that the alarm turns off the ign.sense and the impact sen. 94
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