Notices
Audio / Security / Video Sound Systems, Alarms, Electronics

audio modification for 95 teg

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-03-2009, 06:41 AM
  #1  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Spawne32's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 5,392
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default audio modification for 95 teg

ok so, i have a 95 teg, that doesnt have tweeters in the door panels normally, however, i picked up a set of door panels that DO contain tweeters, and i wanted to wire the tweeters on the same speaker line that powers the 6 1/2 inch in the door, will i be able to get sound off the tweeter by wiring directly into that section of the harness? And, the tweeters are blown out, where can i find suitable replacements that wont require modification?


Old 12-03-2009, 11:49 AM
  #2  
They let me pick
 
mrdeadman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 3,690
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: audio modification for 95 teg

I would just get another set of OEM tweeters from the marketplace or something.
Old 12-03-2009, 02:17 PM
  #3  
i my honda
Global Mod
 
White Smoke's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Maryland
Posts: 9,943
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 6 Posts
Default Re: audio modification for 95 teg

You are going to need a cross-over if you want to add tweeters. Are you door speakers aftermarket? You can replace that factory speaker with a slue of aftermarket units. I would look into a nice component set.
Old 12-03-2009, 03:53 PM
  #4  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Spawne32's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 5,392
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: audio modification for 95 teg

yeh i got brand new kenwoods in the 6 1/2's, whats a crossover?
Old 12-04-2009, 04:06 PM
  #5  
HT Order of Merit
 
JDM_Ej's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 6,205
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default Re: audio modification for 95 teg

Originally Posted by Spawne32
yeh i got brand new kenwoods in the 6 1/2's, whats a crossover?

A crossover splits the signal and sends the low-pass music to the woofer, and the high-pass to the tweeter.

Are your Kenwoods coaxils?



Or separates/components?



You can see the tweeter, woofer and crossovers for these here.
Old 12-04-2009, 04:14 PM
  #6  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Spawne32's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 5,392
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: audio modification for 95 teg



Kenwood KFC-1662S 3-way is what i bought
Old 12-04-2009, 04:17 PM
  #7  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Spawne32's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 5,392
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: audio modification for 95 teg

like i said my original plan was to just add a set of wires onto where i soldered in the new speaker wires for the kenwoods (since the connectors were cut from the harness when i got it) however from what i read about crossovers (passive and active) i want to filter out midrange and low sounds from the tweeters receiving wires?
Old 12-04-2009, 04:50 PM
  #8  
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
dohcvtak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 616
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: audio modification for 95 teg

yeah.. u will need something like this
http://cgi.ebay.com/1-Pair-New-Bass-...item439bacc718
but imo its not worth the trouble might as well buy a new component set all together..
Old 12-04-2009, 05:09 PM
  #9  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Spawne32's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 5,392
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: audio modification for 95 teg

i bought all the speakers 3 months ago, the whole system is brand new, i dont see why i have to buy an additional component set if i can buy crossovers for 3.50
Old 12-04-2009, 05:41 PM
  #10  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Spawne32's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 5,392
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: audio modification for 95 teg

should i note that these are not getting wired into an amplifier?
Old 12-04-2009, 07:31 PM
  #11  
They let me pick
 
mrdeadman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 3,690
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: audio modification for 95 teg

So you are taking out the tweeters in your 3 ways and you're going to put them in the OE location?
You don't needcrossovers, these speakers already have them built in somewhere. Usually it is just a capacitor in series with the tweeter.
If you saved the receipt, I would return those speakers and get a set of components if you really want to have your tweeters in the OE location. If you screw up the speakers trying to take them out, then you are stuck with a new pair of speakers that aren't worth anything.
Old 12-05-2009, 07:06 AM
  #12  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Spawne32's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 5,392
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: audio modification for 95 teg

no....i bought door panels that have tweeters and im trying to install them along side the 3 way 6 1/2 kenwoods
Old 12-05-2009, 08:02 AM
  #13  
HT Order of Merit
 
JDM_Ej's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 6,205
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default Re: audio modification for 95 teg

Originally Posted by Spawne32
no....i bought door panels that have tweeters and im trying to install them along side the 3 way 6 1/2 kenwoods

Your missing the point here... the coaxil Kenwoods you bought already have a tweeter in them. You don't need a second set in the OEM location...

If you really want to put tweeters in that OEM spot, you should change those Kenwood coaxils with a set of components to get the best sound, the correct way. Just adding tweeters isn't going to make anything sound better.
Old 12-05-2009, 08:28 AM
  #14  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Spawne32's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 5,392
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: audio modification for 95 teg

Originally Posted by JDM_Ej
Your missing the point here... the coaxil Kenwoods you bought already have a tweeter in them. You don't need a second set in the OEM location...

If you really want to put tweeters in that OEM spot, you should change those Kenwood coaxils with a set of components to get the best sound, the correct way. Just adding tweeters isn't going to make anything sound better.
Yes, i am aware of the fact that the kenwoods i bought have them already...your missing the point. I WANT a second set of tweeters in the oem tweeter location, thats why i bought door panels that expressly had them, all i want to know is what is the proper wiring method for putting them along side what i already have, and what would be a good replacement for the OEM ones that will fit in the OEM location with the OEM mount.
Old 12-05-2009, 10:54 AM
  #15  
They let me pick
 
mrdeadman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 3,690
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: audio modification for 95 teg

Originally Posted by Spawne32
Yes, i am aware of the fact that the kenwoods i bought have them already...your missing the point. I WANT a second set of tweeters in the oem tweeter location, thats why i bought door panels that expressly had them, all i want to know is what is the proper wiring method for putting them along side what i already have, and what would be a good replacement for the OEM ones that will fit in the OEM location with the OEM mount.
Take your pick.
http://www.crutchfield.com/g_430/Tweeters.html?tp=107
Old 12-05-2009, 01:25 PM
  #16  
fcm
Old Fart
 
fcm's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: kelowna, bc, canada
Posts: 26,173
Likes: 0
Received 14 Likes on 14 Posts
Default Re: audio modification for 95 teg

OK, before everyone drives you nuts, the correct way is to wire the tweeters in parallel with the Kenwoods, the stock tweeter should have a "cap" on them already, no other "crossover" is needed.

With that said, the other posters have a point, a 2nd set of tweeters, [3rd set] so far away from the others will cause phase shift and time alignment problems, effecting the sound stage and imaging, you may not like it, but then again you may not care. 94
Old 12-05-2009, 03:48 PM
  #17  
Honda-Tech Member
 
edzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 903
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: audio modification for 95 teg

God, that is gonna sound like complete crap.
Old 12-05-2009, 03:49 PM
  #18  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Spawne32's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 5,392
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: audio modification for 95 teg

cant get much worse then the rest of honda tech
Old 12-05-2009, 03:52 PM
  #19  
Honda-Tech Member
 
edzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 903
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: audio modification for 95 teg

Do you have the budget to do it the right way?
Old 12-05-2009, 04:01 PM
  #20  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Spawne32's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 5,392
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: audio modification for 95 teg

to buy a whole new component set all over again? no
Old 12-05-2009, 04:07 PM
  #21  
Honda-Tech Member
 
edzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 903
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: audio modification for 95 teg

You have coaxils

not comps.
Old 12-05-2009, 04:41 PM
  #22  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Spawne32's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 5,392
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: audio modification for 95 teg

ok lets stop for a minute, first of all, what kinda tweeters can i get that arent already attached to a cover already so that i can use the stock covers?


Old 12-05-2009, 04:59 PM
  #23  
Honda-Tech Member
 
edzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 903
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: audio modification for 95 teg

None

very hard to find raw tweets
Old 12-05-2009, 07:11 PM
  #24  
fcm
Old Fart
 
fcm's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: kelowna, bc, canada
Posts: 26,173
Likes: 0
Received 14 Likes on 14 Posts
Default Re: audio modification for 95 teg

Originally Posted by edzy
None

very hard to find raw tweets
BULLS*#%! ^^^


Not only can you get tweeters, [raw tweets] that will fit the stock grills/mounts, [minor mods may be needed] there are also component sets that have tweeters that will fit.

Forget that for now, you already have a set of tweeters, [that fit] make sure there is a cap on them and connect them up, [in parallel with the Kenwoods] best way is to run the tweeters speaker leads down to the Kenwood speakers and connect them to the stock speaker leads there.

Try it out, it can't hurt anything except SQ, and SQ is subjective, it's also not going to cost you anything to try it.

Hint... before you connect the tweeters, pop in some of your favorite music and have a listen, connect the tweeters up and listen again, then reverse the polarity of the tweeters, [switch the pos.(+) and neg.(-) speaker leads for the tweeters around so the tweeters are wired out of phase with the Kenwoods] then listen to the music again, pick the way you think sounds the best.

You will have to come to your own conclusion as to which way sounds better, [in phase or out of phase] you may also come to understand why most are telling you it will sound like crap, then again, SQ is subjective. 94

Last edited by fcm; 12-05-2009 at 07:13 PM. Reason: typo
Old 12-05-2009, 07:17 PM
  #25  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Spawne32's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 5,392
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: audio modification for 95 teg

i just checked the passenger side tweet and its cone is separated from the coil, so the passenger side is out, fcm, if you know of any raw tweeters that will fit can you let me know? i havent seen anything in all my searching so far.


Quick Reply: audio modification for 95 teg



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 01:21 AM.