George Knighton

It's starting to look more and more like the next generation TL (2014.5 TLX) is going to be a McPherson car based on the new generation Accord, and that it will be small enough to replace the TSX as we now know it in North America.

hungrygreen_gsr

If I'm not mistaken, the TSX is the last Honda car to have a double wishbone setup. They were planning on phasing out the TSX after this year as McPherson is cheaper and easier to package.
Now that they have the ILX the TL will no longer have to be a tweener car and will indeed replace the TSX.

George Knighton

The new RLX is a double wishbone car, just so you know.

:-)

hungrygreen_gsr

Say what?! I didn't know that. In my perfect world I would have liked Honda to make the RLX a true full size luxo a la S Class and A8. The TLX a E Class A6 sized fighter. Keep the TSX to compete with 3 Series and the like. And the ILX as the true entry level 2 series A Class fighter.

George Knighton

I don't see Acura ever providing anything in the S-Class category.

They like to refer to reason when it comes to luxury and performance. They don't have the moxy to come up with some of the things you'll find in the Mercedes S Class.

I have a 2010 TL SH-AWD 6-6 as a daily driver. 80,000 miles now, completely trouble free.

If you look at my interior and then look at the interior of an S Class, you'll see very big differences and you'll see that the Acura looks very plain compared to the Mercedes.

On the other hand, I get a lifetime average of 24.5 miles per gallon, which the S Class can never do. I also doubt the S Class would get through 80,000 miles completely trouble free with a former track star behind the wheel.

And the TL will also get through Oak Tree at speeds that would send the S Class careening and boating into the infield.

:-)

I can't see Acura in the S Class category anytime soon.

The current RLX was just a teaser.

The *real* RLX we're all waiting for will have an interior very similar to the currently available RLX, but it'll have about 50 HP more, get 30 mpg in the CITY, it'll be SH-AWD, and it'll have Honda's first automated manual transmission.

Just a couple months away, I think, and I'm looking forward to it.

The RLX looks are a little bland, though, coming from a 4G TL.

Barney TSX

having owned many bunch of hondas with double wishbone and mazdaspeed6 with it also, then owning an e92 m3 and R32. I don't see any real benefit or loss from not having double wishbone other than bragging rights.

George Knighton

I understand that it's a mostly theoretical discussion for most people.

But in the ultimate handling challenge, the fact is that it is possible to design a double wishbone suspension that would tend to put more rubber down on the road in the ultimate handling challenge.

It's impossible to design a McPherson suspension to do that. You can make camber changes to try to compensate, but it's not going to be able to adjust to roll the right way to put more camber down than what you've got when you're headed in a straight line.

I think I got that right but if I didn't, I'm sure somebody will fix it soon.