Wheel/Offset question
09-15-2007, 07:39 AM
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Wheel/Offset question
I have been tossing around the idea of new wheels and tires soon because the tires I have on the R now are gettign pretty worn.
I like BigphatR's look with the 16x8, but am not thrilled about rolling my fenders out. I was thinking that if you were to get 16x7 rims with a 40mm offset, wouldn't that effect the potential to run the fender almost as much as a 16x8 with a 48 mm offset?
I want to put some H&R spacers on the front and rear of the caR when I do this, maybe 25 mm. Want to widen the stance some, for cosmetic and performance effects.
I like BigphatR's look with the 16x8, but am not thrilled about rolling my fenders out. I was thinking that if you were to get 16x7 rims with a 40mm offset, wouldn't that effect the potential to run the fender almost as much as a 16x8 with a 48 mm offset?
I want to put some H&R spacers on the front and rear of the caR when I do this, maybe 25 mm. Want to widen the stance some, for cosmetic and performance effects.
09-15-2007, 07:49 AM
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Re: Wheel/Offset question (cmdr430)
yes i know...Im just saying that other than the extra inch of rubber on the road, the 7 to 8 in wheel overall effect on the car would sort of be relative to the offset you choose correct?
09-15-2007, 08:33 AM
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Re: Wheel/Offset question (cmdr430)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cmdr430 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">16x7 40 offset w/ a 25mm spacer.....
that is effectively changing the offset to a 15....</TD></TR></TABLE>
^ x2, what makes you even think of wanting to do this? If you go with 16x7 with a 25mm spacer, really doesn't make one bit of sense, your tires/wheels will stick outside of the fender well...
There are tons of wheel size/tire size/offset threads floating around here in the ITR forum... I'm guessing you're new to all of this?
that is effectively changing the offset to a 15....</TD></TR></TABLE>
^ x2, what makes you even think of wanting to do this? If you go with 16x7 with a 25mm spacer, really doesn't make one bit of sense, your tires/wheels will stick outside of the fender well...
There are tons of wheel size/tire size/offset threads floating around here in the ITR forum... I'm guessing you're new to all of this?
09-15-2007, 09:45 AM
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Re: Wheel/Offset question (totsie7944)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by totsie7944 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I like BigphatR's look with the 16x8, but am not thrilled about rolling my fenders out. I was thinking that if you were to get 16x7 rims with a 40mm offset, wouldn't that effect the potential to run the fender almost as much as a 16x8 with a 48 mm offset?</TD></TR></TABLE>
The wheel width isn't a big factor in determining rubbing and the need to roll fenders, except to the extent that a given offset number is dependent on the width in terms of exactly where it positions the wheel and tire. What matters is the wheel positioning (determined by offset and width) and the tire size. And the tire size should determine width, not vice versa. Your best bet is to decide on things in the following order: wheel diameter (e.g. 16"), then tire size (for an ITR with 16" wheels, that's normally 205/45-16 or 215/45-16), then wheel width (16x8 is too wide for 205/45-16, 16x7 is best, whereas for 215/45-16, 16x7 or 16x7.5 are best), and then offset. Don't start with offset without going through all the other steps first.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by totsie7944 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Want to widen the stance some, for cosmetic and performance effects.</TD></TR></TABLE>
For performance, leave the stance alone, with the suspension geometry as it came from the factory. For wheels with street tires, you're not likely to get better performance than 15x7 wheels with 205/50-15 Azenis, 16x7 with 205/45-16 Bridgestone RE01R or Goodyear F1 GS-D3, or 16x7.5 with 215/45-16 Azenis.
For cosmetic effects, do whatever you want; if you like the low rider look, hey, it's your car...
The wheel width isn't a big factor in determining rubbing and the need to roll fenders, except to the extent that a given offset number is dependent on the width in terms of exactly where it positions the wheel and tire. What matters is the wheel positioning (determined by offset and width) and the tire size. And the tire size should determine width, not vice versa. Your best bet is to decide on things in the following order: wheel diameter (e.g. 16"), then tire size (for an ITR with 16" wheels, that's normally 205/45-16 or 215/45-16), then wheel width (16x8 is too wide for 205/45-16, 16x7 is best, whereas for 215/45-16, 16x7 or 16x7.5 are best), and then offset. Don't start with offset without going through all the other steps first.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by totsie7944 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Want to widen the stance some, for cosmetic and performance effects.</TD></TR></TABLE>
For performance, leave the stance alone, with the suspension geometry as it came from the factory. For wheels with street tires, you're not likely to get better performance than 15x7 wheels with 205/50-15 Azenis, 16x7 with 205/45-16 Bridgestone RE01R or Goodyear F1 GS-D3, or 16x7.5 with 215/45-16 Azenis.
For cosmetic effects, do whatever you want; if you like the low rider look, hey, it's your car...
09-15-2007, 01:43 PM
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Re: Wheel/Offset question (JjuuN R)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JjuuN R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
^ x2, what makes you even think of wanting to do this? If you go with 16x7 with a 25mm spacer, really doesn't make one bit of sense, your tires/wheels will stick outside of the fender well...
There are tons of wheel size/tire size/offset threads floating around here in the ITR forum... I'm guessing you're new to all of this?</TD></TR></TABLE>
yea i am new to the whole wheel and suspension thing which is why I have beenposting so many thread on it recently. I research and then ask questions to verify what I am thinking/learnign is correct.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The wheel width isn't a big factor in determining rubbing and the need to roll fenders, except to the extent that a given offset number is dependent on the width in terms of exactly where it positions the wheel and tire. What matters is the wheel positioning (determined by offset and width) and the tire size. And the tire size should determine width, not vice versa. Your best bet is to decide on things in the following order: wheel diameter (e.g. 16"), then tire size (for an ITR with 16" wheels, that's normally 205/45-16 or 215/45-16), then wheel width (16x8 is too wide for 205/45-16, 16x7 is best, whereas for 215/45-16, 16x7 or 16x7.5 are best), and then offset. Don't start with offset without going through all the other steps first.
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Well the idea setup I am thinking that I would like to run for all reasons is 16x8 with 225/40 tires.....spacers or no spacers I wouldn't be able to tell I guess if I even need them till I try and put the wheels on the R. As for offset, I just simply do not understand for the set up I just said I would like, where to start. I mean I like the rotaslipstream wheels and the 16x8's come with only a 48mm offset, but I would also like a slightly wider stance hence why I was thinking about spacers.
I mean you two know alot more than I do, am I going to need spacers with that offset and wheel size? I am assuming I will rub when turning the wheel hard over without spacers, which is why I was doing some reading on them.
^ x2, what makes you even think of wanting to do this? If you go with 16x7 with a 25mm spacer, really doesn't make one bit of sense, your tires/wheels will stick outside of the fender well...
There are tons of wheel size/tire size/offset threads floating around here in the ITR forum... I'm guessing you're new to all of this?</TD></TR></TABLE>
yea i am new to the whole wheel and suspension thing which is why I have beenposting so many thread on it recently. I research and then ask questions to verify what I am thinking/learnign is correct.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The wheel width isn't a big factor in determining rubbing and the need to roll fenders, except to the extent that a given offset number is dependent on the width in terms of exactly where it positions the wheel and tire. What matters is the wheel positioning (determined by offset and width) and the tire size. And the tire size should determine width, not vice versa. Your best bet is to decide on things in the following order: wheel diameter (e.g. 16"), then tire size (for an ITR with 16" wheels, that's normally 205/45-16 or 215/45-16), then wheel width (16x8 is too wide for 205/45-16, 16x7 is best, whereas for 215/45-16, 16x7 or 16x7.5 are best), and then offset. Don't start with offset without going through all the other steps first.
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Well the idea setup I am thinking that I would like to run for all reasons is 16x8 with 225/40 tires.....spacers or no spacers I wouldn't be able to tell I guess if I even need them till I try and put the wheels on the R. As for offset, I just simply do not understand for the set up I just said I would like, where to start. I mean I like the rotaslipstream wheels and the 16x8's come with only a 48mm offset, but I would also like a slightly wider stance hence why I was thinking about spacers.
I mean you two know alot more than I do, am I going to need spacers with that offset and wheel size? I am assuming I will rub when turning the wheel hard over without spacers, which is why I was doing some reading on them.
09-15-2007, 05:02 PM
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Re: Wheel/Offset question (nsxtasy)
ok so I've done some more researching and I think I found whats best for what i want. i want to get the falken azenis rt615 215/45/16
I like the rota's so rota slipstream 16x7 with a 40mm offset. its a good size rim and tire with a wider offset around the car. And I believe there should be no clearance issues or rubbing issues, hence allowing me room to play if I ever wanted to throw some spacers in there for a even wider stance.
Anyone agree with this decision?
I like the rota's so rota slipstream 16x7 with a 40mm offset. its a good size rim and tire with a wider offset around the car. And I believe there should be no clearance issues or rubbing issues, hence allowing me room to play if I ever wanted to throw some spacers in there for a even wider stance.
Anyone agree with this decision?
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09-15-2007, 05:12 PM
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Re: Wheel/Offset question (totsie7944)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by totsie7944 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok so I've done some more researching and I think I found whats best for what i want. i want to get the falken azenis rt615 215/45/16
I like the rota's so rota slipstream 16x7 with a 40mm offset. its a good size rim and tire with a wider offset around the car. And I believe there should be no clearance issues or rubbing issues, hence allowing me room to play if I ever wanted to throw some spacers in there for a even wider stance.
Anyone agree with this decision?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Sounds good (which is why I mentioned it
). I'm not an expert in offsets though so someone else will have to tell you whether that's a good one for that width.
I like the rota's so rota slipstream 16x7 with a 40mm offset. its a good size rim and tire with a wider offset around the car. And I believe there should be no clearance issues or rubbing issues, hence allowing me room to play if I ever wanted to throw some spacers in there for a even wider stance.
Anyone agree with this decision?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Sounds good (which is why I mentioned it
). I'm not an expert in offsets though so someone else will have to tell you whether that's a good one for that width.
09-15-2007, 05:13 PM
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Re: Wheel/Offset question (nsxtasy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Sounds good (which is why I mentioned it ). I'm not an expert in offsets though so someone else will have to tell you whether that's a good one for that width.
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great thanks again for your guidance. Can anyone chime in on the offset as far as width and clearance?
Sounds good (which is why I mentioned it
). I'm not an expert in offsets though so someone else will have to tell you whether that's a good one for that width.</TD></TR></TABLE>
great thanks again for your guidance. Can anyone chime in on the offset as far as width and clearance?
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Re: Wheel/Offset question (totsie7944)
Have you even checked what wheels are actually available, instead of just trying to pick and choose widths/offsets/spacers?
And after all this ... to go with ROTAs? LOL!
At least go and find some actual "Spoon"s!
P.S. For the money I've spent (and will be spending shortly), I could have had a very nice Vette or P-car.
And after all this ... to go with ROTAs? LOL!
At least go and find some actual "Spoon"s!
P.S. For the money I've spent (and will be spending shortly), I could have had a very nice Vette or P-car.
09-15-2007, 07:51 PM
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I have 38 offset on my new wheels... They rub EVERYTIME I HIT A BUMP, I about went crazy in traffic the other day.
I wish there was a way to increase offset on these wheels to about 45.
15 offset... That's pretty crazy.
I wish there was a way to increase offset on these wheels to about 45.
15 offset... That's pretty crazy.
09-15-2007, 09:19 PM
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Re: Wheel/Offset question (zygspeed)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zygspeed »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Have you even checked what wheels are actually available, instead of just trying to pick and choose widths/offsets/spacers?
And after all this ... to go with ROTAs? LOL!
At least go and find some actual "Spoon"s!
P.S. For the money I've spent (and will be spending shortly), I could have had a very nice Vette or P-car. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yea I've looked into the sizes that I want...Volk has good wheels but they are hella expensive and I don't see the point in them.
actually yea Im in your shoes right now as well. By the time December comes around I woulda been better off selling the Type R and getting a 2006 Z06 corvette. But I love the R.
But come Jan. I will have a surprise to post up haha. You talk to Brad recently? Hes fallen off the face of the earth.
And after all this ... to go with ROTAs? LOL!
At least go and find some actual "Spoon"s!
P.S. For the money I've spent (and will be spending shortly), I could have had a very nice Vette or P-car.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Yea I've looked into the sizes that I want...Volk has good wheels but they are hella expensive and I don't see the point in them.
actually yea Im in your shoes right now as well. By the time December comes around I woulda been better off selling the Type R and getting a 2006 Z06 corvette. But I love the R.
But come Jan. I will have a surprise to post up haha. You talk to Brad recently? Hes fallen off the face of the earth.
09-16-2007, 02:00 AM
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Re: Wheel/Offset question (totsie7944)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by totsie7944 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Yea I've looked into the sizes that I want...Volk has good wheels but they are hella expensive and I don't see the point in them.
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Quality.
Yea I've looked into the sizes that I want...Volk has good wheels but they are hella expensive and I don't see the point in them.
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Quality.
09-16-2007, 07:22 AM
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Re: Wheel/Offset question (get RIGHT)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by get RIGHT »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">FWIW, I'm running a 16x8 wheel with no fender roll and no rub. </TD></TR></TABLE>
pics, specs, tire size please
pics, specs, tire size please
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Re: Wheel/Offset question (totsie7944)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by totsie7944 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yea I've looked into the sizes that I want...Volk has good wheels but they are hella expensive and I don't see the point in them. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Good wheels should be considered the first effective performance mod, along with tires and pads. Oh well ...
I found the comment that "they are hella expensive and I don't see the point in them" to be counter to most of your recent threads, Scott.
Good wheels should be considered the first effective performance mod, along with tires and pads. Oh well ...
I found the comment that "they are hella expensive and I don't see the point in them" to be counter to most of your recent threads, Scott.
09-16-2007, 07:51 AM
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Re: Wheel/Offset question (highroller54)
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pics, specs, tire size please </TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm sitting here racking my brain but I can't remember the offset without pulling a wheel off the caR. I'll see if I can't make that happen in a few days. Heres a few pics though. Its 16x8 up front 16x7 in back. Tires are 215/45/16 Azenis.
Warning: big time conage in this shot. :yuck:
pics, specs, tire size please
</TD></TR></TABLE>I'm sitting here racking my brain but I can't remember the offset without pulling a wheel off the caR. I'll see if I can't make that happen in a few days. Heres a few pics though. Its 16x8 up front 16x7 in back. Tires are 215/45/16 Azenis.
Warning: big time conage in this shot. :yuck:
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Re: Wheel/Offset question (totsie7944)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by totsie7944 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You talk to Brad recently? </TD></TR></TABLE>
No comment.
No comment.
09-16-2007, 10:20 AM
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Re: Wheel/Offset question (zygspeed)
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Why not? I talked to him a couple days ago, everything seems fine?
Why not? I talked to him a couple days ago, everything seems fine?
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Re: Wheel/Offset question (zygspeed)
well the price issue isn't my concern. But I have heard pretty good reviews about the Rota's hence why I didn't see a large enough reason to get the Volk's. However, now you have convinced me. I'm already spending enough at this point on the engine that it doesn't matter spending $1200 more on wheels I suppose. I hope they are as good as there supposed to be. 
Hmm weird about Brad. I was supposed to head to ocean city with him a few months back but I couldn't get off work to do so. Hope all is well with him, guess I need to give him a shout in a bit.
Hmm weird about Brad. I was supposed to head to ocean city with him a few months back but I couldn't get off work to do so. Hope all is well with him, guess I need to give him a shout in a bit.
09-16-2007, 12:06 PM
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Rotas are great for guys like me... Who drive their Type-R's almost daily, and live in a town with pot hole infested roads, and tall curbs.
I think I'd probably blow a blood vessel if I were cruising along, and I heard a loud thud (Pot hole) followed by my car starting to wobble down the road, as I realized one of my $2,500 custom made Volks just bent.
If I bend/curb a Rota... So what? It's a damn Rota, who cares.
I'll get some TE-37s when I decide it's time to stop driving it so much, which is coming very soon.
I think I'd probably blow a blood vessel if I were cruising along, and I heard a loud thud (Pot hole) followed by my car starting to wobble down the road, as I realized one of my $2,500 custom made Volks just bent.
If I bend/curb a Rota... So what? It's a damn Rota, who cares.
I'll get some TE-37s when I decide it's time to stop driving it so much, which is coming very soon.
09-16-2007, 12:12 PM
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Re: Wheel/Offset question (KOALA YUMMIES)
thanks man. Ill check that out. Yea I think the 8" was asking for trouble and work I didn't necessarily want to put it.
As for the volks...Ill probably get the wheels in the next 2 months. My roads are actually really nice around here so it shouldn't be an issue. I just don't like the colors they come in haha.
TE37's come in a 33 and 42mm offset FWIW.
As for the volks...Ill probably get the wheels in the next 2 months. My roads are actually really nice around here so it shouldn't be an issue. I just don't like the colors they come in haha.
TE37's come in a 33 and 42mm offset FWIW.
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Re: Wheel/Offset question (zygspeed)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zygspeed »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
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Problems?
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Problems?