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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 07:01 AM
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OK so I put my snow tires on for the winter the other day and everything looked fine. I took my car up to the Mt. no problems up or on the way back. I stopped at the wifes house for a lil bit and then trekked back to my place. As I was taking this one turn pretty hard off an exit ramp I noticed a weird sound coming from my front end... It was like a wobbling/hitting sound. I was like wtf. So i drove on it a lil more tryin to see what the problem was. Now heres the weird thing. Under acceleration there is no noise or under braking... its only when I coast. So the possible things I can think of are a broken axle, a bent rim, unbalanced tires, alignement is off. or the rims are actually too small for my GSR brakes. the rims i believe came off a 92 civic. Please help me out.
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 07:16 AM
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and another thing... Its mostly the driver side rim that does most of the shaking. I can definitely hear something knocking into something else when takin a turn ot the right and then its not there when a left turn is made. Im baffled
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 07:37 AM
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I think I have a similar sound, my friend who's a mechanic said it sounds like it could be the axle..
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 08:33 AM
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FUCKKKKKKKKK!!!! well when i get home tonite im gonna swap out my winter tires with my summer tires and see if the noise is still there... if so im also leaning with the axle, if not its def the rims and i just wont use them anymore...
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 08:34 AM
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Check all ur motor mounts ..i replaced axle . ball joints . wheelbearing and here it was bad motor mounts
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 08:44 AM
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Yup. One other thing not mentioned is loose lug nuts (hey, it happens). Swapping the rims out to see if it's still there is the first step. If it's still there with your other rims, then it's something on the car - axle, control arm bushings, etc. If it goes away then it's something about the rims or tires - lug nuts, out of balance (weight knocked off), bent rim, etc.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SupersonicBlueGSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So the possible things I can think of are a broken axle, a bent rim, unbalanced tires, alignement is off. or the rims are actually too small for my GSR brakes. the rims i believe came off a 92 civic. Please help me out.</TD></TR></TABLE>

If the rims were too small for the brakes, you would hear a grinding sound, not a vibration. What size are they? 14" rims are usually okay; 13" is too small.
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 09:32 AM
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thanks guys... im just sooo pissed... everytime i have my car up and running in good condition something stupid has to happen... arrrrgggghhh... ill give everyone an update tonite... thanks again for your help
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 09:55 AM
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ok i just took a video of it on my lunch break... u can see when i brake and accel that the noise stops... hopefully it came out good... lemme upload it and ill attach the link
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 04:20 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yup. One other thing not mentioned is loose lug nuts (hey, it happens).

If the rims were too small for the brakes, you would hear a grinding sound, not a vibration. What size are they? 14" rims are usually okay; 13" is too small.
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DING DING... ******* DING!!! we have a winner!!! it was the lugs... 2 of them got loose and the wheel was wobbling. I had the wife drive along side of me at like 30 mph and shes like ummm yeah its wobbling like a motha *****... so i get outta the car, I had my tools on me and just tightened the 2 loose ones and kazzzaaam... drove just fine. I did however loosened them jacked the car up and re-tightened them when I got home with my torque wrench... I could have swore that I torqued them down when I did the swap... I was in a hurry so it could have missed 2... Im just glad that it wasnt something expensive...

Also, since I did ride on them for like a day or 2, are there any consequences that could result cuz of this?
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 05:14 AM
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You now know why you are supposed to torque the lugs, drive for 10 miles, and torque the lugs again. It should not have caused permanent damage as long as the threads on the lugs and nuts are fine.
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 09:12 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dogginator &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You now know why you are supposed to torque the lugs, drive for 10 miles, and torque the lugs again.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I've never done that, and I've never had any problems. &lt; shrug &gt;

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dogginator &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It should not have caused permanent damage as long as the threads on the lugs and nuts are fine.</TD></TR></TABLE>



One more thought - make sure you use lug nuts with the proper shaped seating area for your wheels. (The seating area is the area of the lug nut and wheel that come into contact with each other.) Acura/Honda OEM wheels and stock lug nuts both have a ball-shaped seating area. Most aftermarket wheels and lug nuts have a conical, or tapered, shaped seating area. The lug nuts and wheels need to have the same shaped seating area; otherwise they are only in contact around a circle, rather than the entire area, and it makes it easy for the lug nuts to loosen. So if you switch from aftermarket rims to Honda rims (or vice versa), you need to change to the other kind of lug nuts.
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 09:18 AM
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idk about the torque drive torque thing. but as long as they are all evenly snug tight about 35ft/lbs tq its cool
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 09:22 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by yc_dc4mar &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">idk about the torque drive torque thing. but as long as they are all evenly snug tight about 35ft/lbs tq its cool</TD></TR></TABLE>

You need 80 ft-lbs on lug nuts.
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 09:37 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by yc_dc4mar &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">idk about the torque drive torque thing. but as long as they are all evenly snug tight about 35ft/lbs tq its cool</TD></TR></TABLE>

I was just reading the entire thread and stopped when I see this idiot post 35 ft-lbs. STOP POSTING FALSE INFORMATION! You confuse more people with your ignorance and lack of knowledge. If you don't know, than don't say anything.
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 10:02 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I've never done that, and I've never had any problems. &lt; shrug &gt;
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It is typically recommended for new wheels. I do it as an extra safety step, although it isn't technically required.

http://www.tirerack.com/wheels...d=107

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by yc_dc4mar &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">idk about the torque drive torque thing. but as long as they are all evenly snug tight about 35ft/lbs tq its cool</TD></TR></TABLE>

Mental note: never accept a ride from yc_dc4mar.
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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 01:27 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dogginator &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Mental note: never accept a ride from yc_dc4mar.</TD></TR></TABLE>

haha lmao... yeha i dont think ill be doing that anytime soon...
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One more thought - make sure you use lug nuts with the proper shaped seating area for your wheels. (The seating area is the area of the lug nut and wheel that come into contact with each other.) Acura/Honda OEM wheels and stock lug nuts both have a ball-shaped seating area. Most aftermarket wheels and lug nuts have a conical, or tapered, shaped seating area. The lug nuts and wheels need to have the same shaped seating area; otherwise they are only in contact around a circle, rather than the entire area, and it makes it easy for the lug nuts to loosen. So if you switch from aftermarket rims to Honda rims (or vice versa), you need to change to the other kind of lug nuts.
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thanks for the reminder, but i have 2 different sets, one for my oem wheels and one for my aftermarkets...

ohh and i checked for damage... nothing was wring with the lugs... as soon as i tightened them down for the second time and drove a little I could tell everyhting was fine... thanks again guys
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I have gone out for a test drive on several occasions with the lugs just finger-tight, forgetting to put my torque wrench on them. I'll hear this sound and be like "da hell is that" and then suddenly it hits me what I've done. Then I drive back to my house ever so carefully so that a wheel doesn't fall off, and tighten them up.
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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 07:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PatrickGSR94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have gone out for a test drive on several occasions with the lugs just finger-tight, forgetting to put my torque wrench on them. I'll hear this sound and be like "da hell is that" and then suddenly it hits me what I've done. Then I drive back to my house ever so carefully so that a wheel doesn't fall off, and tighten them up. </TD></TR></TABLE>

i guess it does happen to everyone... like i said previously... i was in a rush and next time i will allot more time and make sure i dont fawk it up
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